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  • Interpreter Strips ?

    Hello,

    I'm a new Scouter and just found your forums. Sorry for the newbie question, but... I've looked through the online BSA uniform guides and done a number of searches both here and on the internet in general, but unfortunately haven't found an answer to my question...

    Is there a maximum number of interpreter strips that a Scouter (or Scout--Cub or Boy Scout--for that matter) is allowed to wear on the uniform? I can't find one. I humbly ask that you please point me in the right direction with a reference so I can look it up and have the "definitive" answer on hand.

    Thank you in advance for your assistance!

    ~Nuke

  • #2
    The Insignia Guide is ambiguous, but it seems the implication is one. I've seen people with two, but I can't imagine how you'd have any more than that. It gets a bit crowded.

    It's a good problem to have, I guess!

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    • #3
      How many merit badges are you allowed to put on a sash ?

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      • #4
        No limit. You should wear as many as you are fluent in and can be helpful as an on-the-spot translator. You never know when someone might be looking for that one strip to help them with communication.

        The downside: a polyglot may not have room for a Jamboree patch, but what's more important: being and advertizement for an expensive convention? Or, signalling that you are prepared to serve if called upon?

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        • #5
          I took Greek and Latin in seminary. Next time I meet up with a 2,000 year old Greek or Roman, I'll be able to chat all afternoon. Took French in high school, but am not proficient at all, but I can order off the menu and find the right bathroom. Same for Spanish that I speak with my conversant daughters. But I do wear the Sign Language strip in that I am proficient with that. Sometimes on this forum, I have often wondered how my English is faring.

          Stosh

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          • #6
            To answer your question more directly, you will probably not find a "rule" on this. Few people are fluent in more than 2 languages. The issue has probably never come up before.

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            • #7
              Thanks All!

              I appreciate the quick and helpful guidance. I have one strip on now, but didn't want to add a second if it was against a rule I hadn't found yet.

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              • King Ding Dong
                King Ding Dong commented
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                Live dangerously my friend.

              • jblake47
                jblake47 commented
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                I know it's a disappointment, but the adventure of bending rules just doesn't apply in this case.

                Stosh

              • Bando
                Bando commented
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                I really can think of few "uniform Nazi" problems that are so worth really fighting for. If you can rock more than one interpreter strip, go for it!

            • #8
              I apologize that I cannot find the reference at the moment, but I do remember looking this up on one of the "official" sites, and that it said up to three interpreter strips. In practice, I don't know too many people who know more than three languages, however, I did have an instructor at University of Scouting that had 4 on his uniform, and two of them were the "over-sized" Asian character strips. That said, I think I agree with Bando. If you qualify for more than one, I think you should wear them. Personally, I'm trying (although not very hard) to add Spanish and ASL (both are more practical for my area) to the German I already have. I've debated the Morse strip, with a little work, I'd probably qualify, and it is kind of fun, but it misses what I believe is the purpose of the strip being on the uniform which is to identify the wearer as someone who would be able to assist a foreign speaker. If it were just for bragging rights, all the strips would probably be in English (or at least the English character translation of the language), just so others know what languages you know, even if they don't. However, given this philosophy, with the purpose to speak and assist others who speak other languages, or even to simply bond with someone new over your common knowledge, I don't have any issues with the unofficial strips for Klingon, elvish, etc. as long as someone really can speak and read/write the language.

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              • #9
                I need a Google Translator Strip

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by King Ding Dong View Post

                  Live dangerously my friend.
                  That I will. Stay thirsty, my friend.

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                  • #11
                    Most I've seen worn at one time is 3; Italian, Spanish, and French.

                    jblake47 reminded me of a story my HS Latin teacher, who also taught Greek and a few other languages, told us. Him and a buddy. who also taught Greek, were vacationing in Greece. They had a rental car, and when it broke down, they telling folks, " Our chariot broke down, can you help us?" No one wanted to help them.

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                    • #12
                      I think I have an answer. 16. There are only 16 approved interpreter strips. Might need an xxxl shirt however. http://www.scouting.org/filestore/pdf/512-019_WB.pdf

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                      • Bando
                        Bando commented
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                        Those are just the ones Nationals produces patches for. They encourage you to have your own made if they don't make one for your particular language, heard as much when I went to the Interpreter Strip exhibit at Jamboree.

                      • King Ding Dong
                        King Ding Dong commented
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                        Are you serious? You couldn't find anything better to do than go to an interpreter strip exhibit ? How was the Trained Patch exhibit ?

                      • Bando
                        Bando commented
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                        Well, I wanted to find out the answer to specifically this question because I wanted to do an interpreter strip in a somewhat lesser-studied language. And it was on the way to something else. So...

                        It was actually pretty cool. They were doing testing on-site for a bunch of languages, things like that.

                    • #13
                      Wear as many strips as you can really speak languages.

                      I had 4 years of french in high school and went to language school in canada twice but still dont wear the francaise strip ^o^ being honest.
                      I got Deutsch on all my shirts. I started a couple more languages already:
                      my grandma was and interpreter and spoke 8 or 9 languages and my grandpa as an historian could only speak like 7 O_o

                      The joke in our Troop was, as a majority did not have english as a first language, we should have "english" strips... but SM said that being BSA, even overseas, that was out of the question :-D

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                      • #14
                        Berliner,
                        I have been told that "English" interpreter strips have custom ordered for troops in Puerto Rico. And if it is a real language, BSA will make them. I had to custom order some for folks when I worked supply.

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                        • King Ding Dong
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                          Anyone ever try to order Klingon or Shyriiwook (wookie) ?

                        • berliner
                          berliner commented
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                          sorry Eagle92 but I cant believe that ... Puerto Rico is like a Colony, sort of the 51st State aye.
                          To my knowledge no BSA scout is allowed to wear an "english" interpreter strip as - with the exception of sign language - speaking eloquent and fluent proper english is the base requierment for being a Boy Scout in 'Merica. We had a few discussion alright but Trans Atlantic is hard on this issue. Mind you some SMs be handing the strips out while some actually demand the skills, as everywhere.

                          English is only my 3rd of currently 5-7 languages, depending on if starting them counts :-P

                          KDD - if you can run a program in fluent Vulcan or what not, why not?

                        • Eagle92
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                          Berliner,

                          Person telling me this worked for supply division. It was when I had to custom order Tagalog. They said if it is a real language and not ordinarily made, they would custom make it. Gave the example of English and Puerto Rico.

                          In regards to Klingon, I knew a Trekie who spoke fluent Klingon and tried to use it to meet his foreign language requirement for college. Didn't happen. On a Scouting note, I've seen the joke patches for Klingon.

                      • #15
                        What about Pig Latin

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                        • King Ding Dong
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                          How about "BSA Speak"

                        • jblake47
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                          ... or how about "Spin Speak" or "Politicalese"

                          Stosh
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