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- Sep 2013
I think I'll pass on the button crap, But I like to see my scouts outperform all of the other troops.
Brewmeister commented09-17-2013, 08:23 AMEditing a commentOne might say that you'd be butthurt...
King Ding Dong commented09-17-2013, 02:19 PMEditing a commentLike BD, this scout does not have a sense of humor. I suspect his troop sits around a campfire all constipated tying knots instead of having fun.
09-17-2013, 02:40 PMEditing a commentSorry, maybe I should have put a smiley face in there to show that I understand
There is also time for fun and time for seriousness, and I think the troop fun level is way above the serious level (just thought I'd let you know.)
- Nov 2011
Well there's the answer, isn't it. Scouting is a competition to you...a game of one-upsmanship. How sad.
Now, let's see, on the first page you wrote:
I think it is a good way to tell who can teach knot tying by simply looking at their lanyard, instead of spending a lot of time asking questions.
I think I'll pass on the button crap,
The best way to see how a scout performs is to SEE how they perform and ask them some questions (which you are loathe to do). That process does not require another doodad on the uniform. But you've already been told that, so...it's sort of pointless to talk with you from here on out.
09-17-2013, 02:44 PMEditing a commentWell the button thing was obviously a joke, but that comment was probably one of the best in the thread (being on topic)
Dedkad, I'm not mean, but I don't put up with BS. I think this attitude is perfect for making better scouts, maybe not by your standards though.
Basementdweller commented09-17-2013, 03:21 PMEditing a commentded then if he is patrol leader or SPL, he won't be re elected, pretty simple
09-17-2013, 04:47 PMEditing a commentBut somehow I got elected for two terms (1 year), and had to be taken out of election or else I would have been SPL for many more terms (no one else would get leadership experience).Last edited by ParacordMan1220; 09-17-2013, 06:26 PM.
- May 2007
OK, guys, it's time to stop beating the poor kid.
Paracord, you obviously have a lot of enthusiasm. That's a great asset to any troop. That said, your idea of awards for being able to do things that are already covered by ranks sounds a bit redundant, and I think that's what people are complaining about. However, your trying to improve enthusiasm to do a good job is admirable. Is there another way to reward that? How about having a knot tying competition and giving out something for the top three? I had a knot tying competition and to even the field I had the older scouts do some of the knots blind folded. You really have to know the knots to do that. So, don't give an award for being average, make an award for going above and beyond.
Personally, I don't like adding awards to a uniform that can already look like bling central, so I'd modify the neckerchief, or add something to it. Also, I'd suggest not worrying about the length of hair. I'm old enough to have seen that when I was your age and it never had a positive outcome. Besides, I had hair that was as wide as my shoulders. It sure pissed my dad off.
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Basementdweller commented09-17-2013, 03:20 PMEditing a commentI bailed the second I found out he was a youth.....
I see nothing wrong with a Patrol looking to enhance it's identity. Had a patrol that wore green bandanna's on their wrists when I first joined the troop......Little to gangsta for my taste.....
09-17-2013, 04:57 PMEditing a commentWhat do you mean you bailed, Base?
Anyway, thank you for posting a relevant comment MattR, i appreciate it more than you know.
- Jun 2006
I did a bit of "modifying" as Paracord is suggesting, but I did so within the limits of appropriate uniforming. The first thing I did was have a ranking by color a system of lanyards. Kind of a "reward" for outstanding work thingy. All I did was buy a bunch of lanyard cord of various colors and cut to about 6" lengths. Starting with the first color if I caught a boy doing something right he got the first color which would be larkhead knot through the button hole of the temporary patch pocket. Nothing says that pocket is sacred to anyone. If sewn correctly so the button hole can be used the OA patch even doesn't get in the way. One could "progress" by taking on more and more projects which were subject to SM approval of merit. It wasn't just doing the same thing over and over again, but challenging the skills of the scout in such things as leadership, organizational projects or whatever the SM deemed as appropriate. Of course the boys knew that by screwing up, the lanyard could be taken away and the boy would need to start earning it back. Not really appropriate, but we've all wanted to bust the boys in rank many times before. Well, being a temporary "patch" I would always emphasize the temporary part of it to the boys. They all knew what that meant. Of course even without switching out colors one could add value to the system along the way. The SPL would announce lights out, but all the boys with "blue" or above could stay an extra half hour at the campfire with the adults before heading to bed. No color changes, but a big perk nonetheless. This program can be modified to one's own situation without any national rules getting in the way, too.
Again, a troop adopts a certain uniform, but it doesn't need to all be the same. My honor patrol all purchased the expedition hat with the 2" FC badge on it and wore a colored hat cord to indicate his POR. SPL yellow, ASPL blue, PL, red, and because of the uniqueness of the hat I could identify my honor scouts from a long distance away. They also wore a specialty necker different from the rest of the troop. They carried both. When they operated as a patrol, they wore their patrol necker and when the troop gathered as a whole, they switched to the troop necker.
Eventually the rest of the troop adopted their own patrol neckers and it was kind of handy. As SM one could sit 300' away and see if all the boys were in their proper patrol area or not.
While none of this truly conforms to the official uniform, there is nothing that actually is deemed inappropriate for a troop to have some independence with.
It was always nice to see at Eagle COH's those little pieces of lanyard and different colored neckers displayed on their memory boards. It must have meant something important to them at one point.
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- Mar 2013
Remember my solution for the Cubs complaining about the hot scratchy uniform collars ? Silk Ascots. It fits perfectly. Very British, very military, all the cadets wear them. You guys will look dashing. Different colors for your ninja levels. Best of all it won't violate current BSA Guide to Insignia. (At least I don't think so) Or you could just have a poster board at your meeting place with everyone's current rank. I have heard of a attaching your landyards and beads idea to a carabiner off the belt, that would probably work also.
- Feb 2013