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  • Public invited to Jambo

    The public is also invited during the jamboree to come onto the Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve.

    People will be bussed into the property from Bradley.

    From there, visitors can go zip lining, mingle with the scouts, and experience what the jamboree is all about.

    Mike Patrick, Director of Operations at the reserve, said, "Even if you're not a scout, you can come and visit the Jamboree. Any day that we are open beginning July 17 to July 24th, and all you have to do to get a ticket is go to visit www.jambo.org."
    Several exhibits on the property will also be open to the public.

    A more direct link
    https://summit.scouting.org/en/Jambo.../Visitors.aspx

    Story link
    http://www.wvva.com/story/22799753/2...-scout-reserve
    Last edited by RememberSchiff; 07-10-2013, 07:05 AM.

  • #2
    When I'm asked to buy a $35 ticket, I don't feel "invited."

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    • NJCubScouter
      NJCubScouter commented
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      I get those kinds of "invitations" all the time, unfortunately it is almost standard practice in the legal profession. "Save the date for the retirement dinner of Judge So-and-So!" and then 2 weeks later "You are cordially invited to the retirement dinner for Judge So-and-So ($90 for members of the county bar association, $100 for non-members.)" I'm not making up the prices, either.

    • RememberSchiff
      RememberSchiff commented
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      I know what you mean Kahuna. Here's a scout invite from an Eagle Scout, Red Sox right-fielder Shane Victorino, "The Flying Hawaiian", which seems er, more inviting.

      "Victorino invited the scouts, most of them participants in the Minuteman Council’s ScoutReach initiative for inner-city boys, through the annual Flyin’ Hawaiian All-Stars Charity Ticket Program organized by his Shane Victorino Foundation, the Boy Scouts of America’s Boston Minuteman Council said in a statement."

      http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/...ielder_sh.html

  • #3
    I understand from our Troops SM that more than one parent that was interested in visiting was really upset that they could not visit with their scout in their troop site.....or walk with them to his activities........

    Not exactly sure why I would visit......

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    • #4
      So much for the BSA policy allowing parents to attend and observe any meeting, function or venue attended by their children. Seems to me, requiring a $35 fee violates that policy.

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      • NJCubScouter
        NJCubScouter commented
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        And the visitors (including parents) do not even have access to the entire area (like Basementdweller says) even if they DO buy a ticket. Right?

      • RememberSchiff
        RememberSchiff commented
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        Seems to me too. Jambo appears to be another world where helicopter families and volunteers are tapped as revenue sources. Imagine even thinking of doing that back in our units or local camps. I think a no-charge, no-entry, distant observation point(s) would suffice. Visitors should not be mingling or interfering in the program areas with scouts and scouts who paid the $$$, did the paperwork, etc.,
        Another $0.02

    • #5
      And can't do any of the activities.

      No back packs.
      So, for $35 you get to wander around and look and pay BSA prices for food and water...

      Anybody?

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      • #6
        So don't go.

        Personally, having been at the last jambo dealing with 40-50,000 visitors a day and having the paying Scouts in my troop blocked out events because visitors and staff jumped the line and took our spots, I would completely close the site to non participants. This includes all the council and national muckety-mucks who believe they are entitled to a guided golf-cart tour of the site.

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        • Basementdweller
          Basementdweller commented
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          As a youth I was blocked out of events like 2CD mentioned at AP Hill........ I don't remember the golf carts zipping around.....

      • #7
        I don't agree with the restictions, but I do understand why they are necessary.

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        • Basementdweller
          Basementdweller commented
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          Spoken like a true council lacky

        • jr56
          jr56 commented
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          I have commented on BSA policy. If you don't like the policy, you don't have to spend the money to send your son to the Jamboree. There is no need for nasty comments.

      • #8
        As a parent that paid nearly $1200 for my scout to attend before extra uniforms and other fees, if he gets to wait in line and not do something because adult day visitors come in and take all the spots I will be really ticked. They don't get to do that at sea base or philmont.

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        • #9
          Yes, I'm a scout going and if I have to wait I WILL BE MAD. They are already making us where green socks and shorts and shirts that says 'Scouts', now they're going to steel our fun too.

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          • Momleader
            Momleader commented
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            Don't be mad if you are waiting in line with other scouts who came with contingents - be mad if you are waiting because day visitors are taking the slots. Then write thoughtful letters to national and your council office when you get home (maybe have your parents proofread it). Have fun!

          • NJCubScouter
            NJCubScouter commented
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            Northwestpascout, first of all, welcome to the forums!

            Second of all, it sounds like you are complaining about wearing a Scout uniform at a Scout Jamboree. You're just kidding about that part, right? A little joke that this old man isn't getting?

            I hope you (and everybody else) has a good time at the Jamboree. I wish I could be there.

          • northwestpascout
            northwestpascout commented
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            Thanks, I'm sure I'll have a great time. I was saying I will be mad if I have to wait in line behind visitors that didn't pay the full price. About the Uniforms I have no problem with wearing my scout uniform, but I don't (didn't) have extra random green shorts and green socks. I do now of course. I guess what really made me mad was that our contingent didn't come out right and say we had to be in uniform the whole time. I don't like that I had to spontaneously (1 week ago) go buy more pants and socks.

        • #10
          The point about the Jambo site being clogged by so many day visitors is valid. The paying scouts were hounded out and blocked from their venues because of the mass of visitors. Want to go to Jambo? Then pony up the $1,500 like everyone in my troop did. The visitors center, with a "taste" of the Jambo is a great idea. Any bets on golf carts everywhere? 23 out of 30 day of the last has rained. It will be a bog.
          Originally posted by Twocubdad View Post
          So don't go. Personally, having been at the last jambo dealing with 40-50,000 visitors a day and having the paying Scouts in my troop blocked out events because visitors and staff jumped the line and took our spots, I would completely close the site to non participants. This includes all the council and national muckety-mucks who believe they are entitled to a guided golf-cart tour of the site.

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          • Momleader
            Momleader commented
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            23/30 days of rain? Better send an extra bottle of DEET - the skeeters could be beyond numerous

          • RememberSchiff
            RememberSchiff commented
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            At least 5.000 tickets already sold.

            "Visitors are also invited to the Saturday evening stadium show and a closing ceremony complete with Zambelli fireworks."
            http://www.dailymail.com/News/201307100239

          • Basementdweller
            Basementdweller commented
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            Aren't the opening and closing day show tickets More expensive?????

            5,000 tickets, isn't that only 500 per day?????

        • #11
          From the Jamboree site:

          One day pass (specific date) less show
          $35
          $25
          One day pass (any one day) less show
          $40
          $30
          Any two days pass less show
          $50
          $40
          Any three days pass less show
          $60
          $50
          All days pass plus show
          $125
          $95
          Show day pass
          $50
          $40

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          • #12
            I attended the last two Jambos as an ASM and served on our council's Jambo committee for this Jambo. Unless something has changed that I am unaware of, visitors will only be allowed into a "visitor area" where they can get a limited Jambo experience. Scouts can enter this area to meet the visitors. Other than the visitor area, visitors will NOT be allowed into the Jambo area or participate in any of the activities. In the previous Jambos, visitors had access to the whole place and could participate in activities which did mean that kids who had paid a ton of money had to stand in line longer. The new Jambo model has everyone scheduled for specific activities on specific days and times. Supposedly, there is no more standing in line. You show up at your alloted time and do your thing. At least that is the plan. And all of that excludes visitors.

            From the Jamboree Council Guide available at the Jambo website.

            https://summit.scouting.org/en/Jambo...uncilGuide.pdf
            The Summit Center
            The Summit Center will be the hub of jamboree activity set between the villages and the activity areas. The Summit
            Center will be the only area open to day visitors. On specific days, visitors may pay a fee and visit the Summit Center area and experience all it has to offer. The Summit Center will be open to regular jamboree participants, but day visitors may not visit the base camps or activity areas.
            The Summit Center will be home to the stadium shows, the military exhibit, Conservation stadium, the Disabilities Awareness Trail, Sustainability Treehouse, and all the various exhibits and displays. Also at the Summit Center will be Action Point, which will have smaller preview versions of activities taking place in the activity areas. Those activities will be designed by the same professionals who design the activity areas.
            Last edited by SR540Beaver; 07-12-2013, 11:20 AM.

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            • northwestpascout
              northwestpascout commented
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              Thanks that makes me feel a little better.

            • Kahuna
              Kahuna commented
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              You've got it, Beaver. I certainly agree with those who have mentioned that paying Scouts were pushed out by all the visitors at the 2010 Jambo. Then, there was the traffic. I don't think they will be having that problem at this one. I have checked the local hotels and most seem to have vacancies as of today, which certainly wasn't the case at last Jamboree at A.P. Hill.

          • #13
            The scheduled activity is only for one half of one day. All other days are elective, or DoS, WW, or Trek.

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            • #14
              Some visitors are more equal than others. VIP visitors may enter and participate in program areas, etc.

              "The Summit officially threw open its gates to visitors on Wednesday, attracting 1,600 people within the first hour and a half of opening.

              The Boy Scouts of America says that up to 50,000 visitors may attend the event, but when asked for the number of passes sold, they said they are not tracking these totals."

              http://www.register-herald.com/jambo...lcome-visitors

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              • SR540Beaver
                SR540Beaver commented
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                The story talked about the possible number of visitors. It never said that they would be participating in the program areas. Knowing people who visited, they were only allowed in the visitor center as advertised. Knowing a number of staffers and the adult leadership for our 4 contingent troops and 1 crew, they were never bothered by visitors being allowed inside the Jambo footprint. They had the place to themselves.

              • RememberSchiff
                RememberSchiff commented
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                Neither I nor that article stated that all visitors would have access. I stated that VIP visitors did, e.g.,American Legion.

                Koutz, Cook and Butler ended their day with an exhilarating and cooling 50 miles-per-hour glide down a 1,500-foot zip line. First, however, was a 30-minute climb up to the launch tower atop one of the highest hills on the site. "That was worse than marching through the jungle in Vietnam," reflected Koutz. Still, a big smile creased his face as the zip line adventure ended. "I’d do it again right now – if I didn’t have to climb up that hill again," he said.

                http://www.legion.org/scouting/21645...-scouting-site

              • Basementdweller
                Basementdweller commented
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                Interesting they let those folks do the zip line and my scout wasn't able to participate because of line length and schedule...

            • #15
              NWPAS, I sure hope you are too busy to be bothered with checking this. But, in case your are staring at your mobile device instead ... you can take one of the plays from one of my scouts' books.

              If you find a scout from another country or a soldier about your size, ask to trade uniforms. To of my boys came back with full sets of army digitals!

              If you find yourself at the head of a long Krispy Creme line (more likely if you are wearing army digitals). Buy a couple dozen doughnuts and start selling them to the folks who've been waiting for them behind you.

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