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  • Ideas for Wolf Achievement 4f.

    Wolf Achievement 4f states: Visit an important place in your community, such as a historic or government location. Explain why it is important.

    Most of the meeting plans I have seen suggest visiting a fire station, but I hate to do that again since we just did that as Tigers. Does anyone else have any good suggestions? We have many historical areas we could visit that show how life was in the 1700s and 1800s, but they have high admission prices and I really think the boys would be quite bored. There is a city park with many hiking trails that has been around for nearly 100 years and has some history attached to it, but the weather may not be super cooperative over the next few months. We would also need to go on a Saturday. I am hesitant to do that since in the next 6 weeks or so we already have 3 Saturdays with Scout events on them, but I am at a loss for what we could do in the evening. Thanks for any suggestions!

  • #2
    There are lots of ideas! I am not sure where you live but remember "government" can be Federal, State, and local plus lots of others:

    Federal-we did FBI, Secret Service, and ATF (not fun those last guys).
    State-we saw the local Department of Transportation command center with videos of the roads.
    Local (City and County)
    - Local "dump" and incinerator. Super cool--fires, garbage, 4 story conveyor belt.
    Airport-we did several trips to our airport (they had a program in place)
    Port-Got a free boat cruise out of them.
    Military Base-took a while to clear security but folks were very family friendly and we got to see some hangers, the armory, and a crash fire station.
    Transit Authority --Got to visit the "bus barn" and dispatch center and kids got to sit in the drivers seat.
    We also visited a local Fireman/Police training academy (many communities have something like that) and saw guys practice rappelling and spraying hoses. Much better than another firehouse visit.
    One tip we got was our City partially owned a historic theatre and we got a "ghost tour" of a very groovy 1920's theatre.

    Ask other local scout leaders (GSUSA too), teachers, etc for ideas. Also your local government (and local elected leaders) for what might be available. As a public servant myself most of us have or have had kids and want to show off what we do. Many government agencies have a public relations person/liaison who does this stuff all the time.

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    • #3
      Tour of your town hall by selectman, alderman or mayor? Also a visit to the state police office/HQ if that's nearby.

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      • #4
        How about

        the Veteran's Memorial Park,
        the military section of the cemetery
        the grave of a prominent citizen
        why is the school named after someone
        why is a park named after someone
        why is a street named after someone
        where were the first buildings in your town, and what's there now.
        visit the oldest business in town
        who lived in the nice big houses in town and why were they important
        what did the cars look like the first year the car dealership was in business
        why do houses today look differently than those that are 100 years old.
        what about repurposed buildings in town. Why is it called the Depot Pizza Joint? or the Freighthouse Restaurant?
        tour an antique shop and find something you don't know what it is and have someone explain it.
        where were the city limits100 years ago?
        where was the first school, church, built in town
        who was the first mayor of your town, where did he live, what did he do for a living
        who started the first hospital in town

        There are those involved with your local historical society/museum/library that would love to do something for the kids.

        Stosh

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        • jblake47
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          In my local cemetery are veterans from every war fought by the US except the Revolutionary war. War of 1812, Florida Indian Wars, Mexican War, Civil War both federal and confederate, post-CW Indian Wars, Span Am, WW I, WW II, Korea, Vietnam and recent wars. We even have one that is a veteran of the Texan War of Independence. We have a CW general that was also the state governor and founder of General Mills, the commanding officer aboard the Maine when it went down is also buried there. The wife of a war correspondent that perished at Custer's Last Stand is buried there as well. One of the men buried there was sitting in the audience when Lincoln was killed and watched Booth jump to the stage and limp off.

          Ronald McDonald is buried there as well as John Lennon.

          What kid wouldn't want to learn about some of their stories. What is even more interesting is how involved these people were in making the community what it is today. They were involved with the riverboat industry, the lumber industry, farming, city development, hospitals, colleges, business endeavors, etc. etc. Their legacy of who we are is right there in that cemetery.

          I had one boy inspect military graves in the cemetery, take pictures of the damaged ones, and then submit to the VA for replacements. 16 stones were replaced. It was a great Eagle Project that got nice picture and press in the local AND statewide newspaper.

          Stosh

        • Baseballfan
          Baseballfan commented
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          Ronald McDonald??? John Lennon, are you quite certain??
          Last edited by Baseballfan; 10-30-2013, 08:55 PM.

        • jblake47
          jblake47 commented
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          That's what the stones say!

          Stosh

      • #5
        Post Office might be willing to do a tour or a local postal sorting center.

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        • Tampa Turtle
          Tampa Turtle commented
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          We did that at our Airport--it WAS more interesting than I thought. Maybe if you had an Amazon distribution center--but that might be stretching it.

      • #6
        Makes me want to do Cub Scouts again!

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        • jblake47
          jblake47 commented
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          Why? One has to be kinda crazy to take on any Scouting program in the first place.

          Stosh

        • King Ding Dong
          King Ding Dong commented
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          I am getting a little jaded. My other DL is a step dad and his son is a Smart Alec and he waits way to long before addressing the behavior. My cub is no peach but if he talked back to me like that he wouldn't see a video screen for a week. The boy does not pull that crap when he is over at my house.

        • Tampa Turtle
          Tampa Turtle commented
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          I was lucky and had some great ADL's. And teenage Boy Scouts can get a bit tiring too.

      • #7
        We went to the Veterans Memorial in the park next to the library. On the other side of the library is a historic home and the local historical society. The memorial was full of engraved bricks. We asked the scouts to find a brick with their name on it. We asked them to find a brick with a woman's name. We asked them to find a brick from a certain way. It was challenging to keep them engaged. The really just wanted to run in the park. I think we might start next meeting by running laps or a game of tag, get them tired, then ask them to sit down and listen for a minute.

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        • jblake47
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          Duh! You ALWAYS burn up their energy first! If their tongues aren't hanging out and they're gasping for air, they aren't ready to start thinking about sitting down. 50 minutes of running around for 10 minutes of Achievement 4f, and you're golden~!

          Stosh

      • #8
        Thank you for all the suggestions. I guess a lot of the trouble I am running into is that many of the government locations close at 5pm and we don't meet until 6:30 (about half of cubs have parents who both work.) We probably need a Saturday activity, so I am looking for something in January since we have Scouting for Food and the Christmas Parade all within a few weeks here on Saturdays. We actually have a wonderful archaeological area here, and they have belt loop programs for scouts...but only for the Webelos. I have been discussing with them about having a program for the younger boys. Maybe something will pan out....the boys always have a good time there. There are wonderful historical sites with tours also, but I am concerned with their behavior. I think about half of them would be fine.....can pay attention for the tour and would learn a lot, but the I don't think the other half would pay attention or enjoy it.

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        • #9
          What is that old saying? .... You can lead a Cub to the museum, but you can't make him learn? No, that's not it....

          Anyway, as I have learned in my subteaching and Cub Scouting, the best you can do is give them the opportunity. Sometimes, SOMETIMES, you hit the right docent or guide, and they make it fun and the kids come away saying "cool" and humming the song, so to speak. It will stick with some, slide off of some, make some think, make some go ho-hum. That's the luck of the draw.
          As to the boy whose dad is a "let boys be boys", I have sometimes had to get RIGHT DOWN IN THE BOY'S FACE and tell him how things will be. Then they listen. Later, the dad comes and says, "I don't know what you did, but he was different after that meeting"....

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          • #10
            I appreciate everyone's ideas. I really wish we had done this activity as one of the very first activities in the fall, however, I didn't know scheduling would be such a problem. We are planning to go to a park, that has historical significance. I just hope the weather cooperates.

            Our den will be Webelo's by the time the change happens, but I hope for future cub scouts that the Go See Its are easier to arrange. We have many of the things everyone mentioned, but it is impossible to visit them at night. The library and the fire station are by far the closest and most interesting, but we already visited them in Tigers.

            Plus, this is probably another thread, but I am really worried about the behavior of the boys. As soon as they show up at Scouts, they immediately turn wild...even with constant reminding. It is so frustrating.

            Again, thank you all for the help.

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            • qwazse
              qwazse commented
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              See JBlake's replay to howarthe on 11-04-2013. That about sums it up. But definitely start a new topic on this one. We've had similar, but it's always nice to have a fresh batch of replies!

            • SPSTracy
              SPSTracy commented
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              All my cubs go crazy too. It's the age. I bribe them with games at the end of the meeting IF they behave + I jump through hoops to "fun it up" when possible.
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