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  • Webelos Pins--Belt Loops required

    For many of the Webelos pins there are requirements to earn belt loops as a Webelo. For example, below Sportsman Pin requires 4 belt loops. Does EARN mean the Cub should be AWARDED another belt loop if he already has it from tiger, wolf or bear years. Should the Pack buy cubs/webelos two belt loops for the same thing?
    1. Show the signals used by officials in one of these sports: football, basketball, baseball, soccer, or hockey.
    2. Explain what good sportsmanship means.
    3. While you are a Webelos Scout, earn Cub Scouting Sports belt loops for two individual sports (badminton, bicycling, bowling, fishing, golf, gymnastics, marbles, physical fitness, ice skating, roller skating, snow ski and board sports, swimming, table tennis, or tennis).
    4. While you are a Webelos Scout, earn Cub Scouting Sports belt loops for two team sports (baseball, basketball, soccer, softball, volleyball, flag football, or ultimate).


  • #2
    He has to earn it, he does't have to be awarded it, since that is a cost involved that many packs can't afford to duplicate. Give them the card to shwo he re-earned it, encourage him to earn the pin for the sport as well, since that's something higher to strive for. But the pack doesn't have to go buy the belt loop again.

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    • #3
      What is this card you speak of? Does it have to be purchased? Our boys are awarded belt loops and.or pins, but no card. As for the answer to the question, I don't see the need to have duplicate belt loops. The boy can re-earn the belt loop as a webelos, but doesn't need to be given another.

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      • King Ding Dong
        King Ding Dong commented
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        The scout shop has cards for like .11 for the activity badges that have the CM and DL signatures on them. Sort of act like a blue card as proof the cub earned it. I suspect they have them for belt loops and pins also although I have never purchased one.

    • #4
      The cards are called pocket certificates. The come in packs of 100 if memory serves.

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      • #5
        http://www.scoutstuff.org/bsa/litera...rtificate.html
        we give a card like that for all ranks, and for belt loops.

        Our boy scouts include the Arrow of Light pocket certificate with their ranks and merit badges when they go for eagle. They file all the cards in a binder with baseball card holder pockets.

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        • #6
          We don't award the BL again. They redo the requirements as Webelos. I try to see if we can get the pin.

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          • Pack18Alex
            Pack18Alex commented
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            That seems awfully legalistic. If they earned the loop, and earn the Pin as a Webelos, and you're fudging the loop requirements, who really cares? Honestly, if they put the time to working the sport, does it really matter if the Scout "explained the rules" to the Den Leader again when they did it years ago and clearly know the rules enough to play the game?

            I mean, if someone picked up the pin through all the "book parts" - read a book about a player and report kind of things, alright, so be it... But I would absolutely push earning the Pin. If you want to train them in BSA legalisms, make sure you can check the boxes for the loop. They'll probably earn it anyway... Have them work with the Cubs to teach the Cubs the loop, they'll earn the loop by teaching the cubs and earning their pins.

          • christineka
            christineka commented
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            There's more to belt loops than sports. There's a whole set of academics belt loops and the pins have really different requirements. There are many academic belt loops that are either requirements or options to count toward webelos activity badges.

          • King Ding Dong
            King Ding Dong commented
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            You are correct on the academic belt loops and pins the requirements diverge much more than on the sports ones. A belt loop can be earned in less than an hour, a pin will generally take several hours over many sessions to complete. If a boy has already earned a belt loop Ina given subject and would rather put in the extra effort to earn the pin instead of taking the easy route and earning the belt loop AGAIN, I say common sense takes over and he should be allowed to go that route. It's more work and more in depth and he will actually learn something. That's why we do scouts.

            If someone feels differently and wants to stifle a boys ambition and make him only earn the belt loop AGAIN, that's their prerogative and they can certainly never be accused of not following the letter of the law.

        • #7
          Accomplishments trump bling. If the boys play the games, they get the pin. Loop, card, or platinum embossed plaque is not necessary. If money's tight, don't even buy the pins. Just award the badge once they've completed the rest of the requirements.

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          • #8
            If a Webelos scout earned the Citizenship BL & pin while a Bear, does he have to re-earn the pin as a Webelos for the Citizen activity badge?

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            • koolaidman
              koolaidman commented
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              Yes. He has to re-earn them as a Webelos.

            • King Ding Dong
              King Ding Dong commented
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              He needs to re-earned the belt loop or the pin. Both are not required.
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