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  • #16
    If the scout has been having difficulties with the SM before, maybe he should transfer to a different troop. Not every troop is for every scout. Removing a SM is not easy and you will not make any friends in the troop. What if the other parents and/or CO like the SM's direction of the program. Similar to a job, if you have a supervisor you don't get along with its time to find another employer.

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    • #17
      Yes yes the grass is always greener.


      Sure the scout got his feeling bruised a bit...Not disagreeing that he should not have made that statement in that direct of a manner.


      But from what your saying he has responded in a positive way to the challenge.

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      • #18
        For the sake of argument, if the scout meets all the requirements -- if even just barely -- how can anyone call him out on it? The requirements don't say he has to be a Rockwellesque scout, just that he meet all requirements.

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        • #19
          Some seem to suggest that "paper Eagle" means the Scout is not doing what the requirements call for - for example not being an "active" member as expectations have been set by the troop. http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2012/04/30/active/

          Others seem to feel it means that the SM wants something(s) beyond the requirements.


          In the first instance, the Scout is not an Eagle of any kind.

          In the second instance the SM seems to be wanting to change the requirements, which neither he nor even a Council may do.


          But I can see the Scout erring in thinking it's the second when it's the first. In the search to do the least, some do not want to do even the minimum.


          "Paper Eagle" seems like an unfortunate turn of phrase at best.

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          • #20
            "Paper Eagle" is redundant.

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            • #21
              Eagle can mean different things to different people. Eagle can mean a boy meets the minimum requirements to get the rank, or it can also mean an attitude of character/leadership developed over the course of one's scouting career. On paper it's often difficult to tell the difference, but talking with the scout for 5 minutes should quickly determine which one he is.

              Stosh

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              • #22
                Paper is also used to "patch" a bullet.

                CHICAGO ILLINOIS
                A Scout is brave, but what Lawrence D. Sellers did on Jan. 29, 2013, was something beyond bravery.
                The Chicago Area Council Eagle Scout was shot in the leg while shielding a friend from gunfire during the Harsh Park attack that killed Hadiya Pendleton. Pendleton’s death, which happened a mile from President Barack Obama’s South Side home, has become a national symbol of Chicago’s gang violence, which has spiked in recent years.
                On Sunday, the Chicago Area Council will present Lawrence with the Honor Medal, given for “unusual heroism and skill in saving or attempting to save a life at considerable risk to self.”

                SOUTH BERWICK, Maine — The Boy Scouts of America conferred its highest honor on local resident David Hopkins, naming him an Eagle Scout during a ceremony Sunday afternoon at the South Berwick Town Hall.
                The son of Ed and Barbara Hopkins, David is a freshman engineering student at the University of New Hampshire.
                Hopkins spent two years on his Eagle Scout project to build a skateboard park for the town’s new Teen Center. Hopkins’ community service will continue, as he enlisted May 7 into the New Hampshire Air National Guard.
                Tim Shea, a committee chairman for South Berwick’s Troop 338, said only 2 percent of the boys who enter scouting will ever reach the rank of Eagle.
                "By his actions this past Easter morning, he takes seriously his devotion to the welfare of others," Shea said.
                Shea was referring to Hopkins’ efforts to save two women and a toddler when their Somersworth apartment caught fire in the early morning hours of Easter Sunday.
                Firefighter’s nicknamed him "Spider-Man" because he climbed out of a third-story window to summon help and then climbed back up to assist the help the occupants of the apartment. Somersworth Fire Chief Paul Vallee called Hopkins a hero.
                David Webster, chairman of the South Berwick Town Council, thanked Hopkins for his work on the skateboard park. Hopkins organized and planned the project, which involved 22 scouts and volunteers who gave 675 hours of service.
                Hopkins also received a letter of congratulations from the Air National Guard. Senior Master Sgt. David Caswell attended the ceremony and said Hopkins has been assigned to work in his squadron after he completes basic training.

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                • #23
                  Okay, my mistake! Sometimes it takes a mere few seconds to identify a real Eagle.

                  Stosh

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jblake47 View Post
                    Eagle can mean different things to different people. Eagle can mean a boy meets the minimum requirements to get the rank, or it can also mean an attitude of character/leadership developed over the course of one's scouting career. On paper it's often difficult to tell the difference, but talking with the scout for 5 minutes should quickly determine which one he is. Stosh
                    Sadly most Eagles I have met fit this category.

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