Re: Dishwashing

Jim,

Sorry, but I will not back down on this one. While I will agree on the
seemingly large amount of equipment needed when done by the patrol, the
logistics will call for the ability to have the gear at any campout, whether
one large trailer or several smaller ones, along with the adult personnel to
'oversee' proper washing technique for each patrol. This also gives some
small incentive to each patrol, as they can go about whatever activities as
soon as they are done. In the mass washing setup there will always be some
boys who will have to wait for quite an extended period of time, even if you
rotate so that you bring them towards the front of the line. It is also
easier to teach and reinforce 'Leave No Trace' rituals at the patrol level,
and this system is now being recommended and endorsed by National, although
I know of some Troops that have been teaching this for years.

Scout On

Bob Dewar
Scoutmaster, T329

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Peterson <kupete@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU>
To: SCOUTS-L@LISTSERV.TCU.EDU <SCOUTS-L@LISTSERV.TCU.EDU>
Date: Monday, March 29, 1999 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: Dishwashing

>Hi Bob, et al!:
>
>Bob wrote in talking about the dishwashing thread:
>
>> If you are using the Patrol Method on campouts, then I do not
understand
>>where you see a problem, as each Patrol does their own cooking and cleanup
>>so you would only be looking at groups of approx. 6-8 boys.
>>
>> On the other hand, if you are NOT using the Patrol Method on campouts
>>then you have a much bigger problem than just dirty dishes.
>(snip)
>
> Look over your program, it may
>>very well be ill if you are not running the Patrol Method on campouts.
>
>Whoa Bob!...don't be so quick to judge...lemme carry your writings out to
>our situation. We have ten patrols in our troop. That means we have
>THIRTY dishwashing tubs/buckets?! Nope, I don't think so. That would be
>lacking in the "common sense" department. Many times, large troops set up a
>central dishwashing station for their large campouts to save on equipment
>and to provide a central place to observe the washing of dishes and insure
>that things are in place to prevent mass illness in the troop.
>
>Now certainly, we practice the patrol method in many/most cases. It's just
>that when we go to a district camporee, for instance, we may indeed wash
>dishes as a troop rather than as a patrol. Our patrols are equipped with
>different equipment for different types of camping events. Many troops do
>a lot of backpacking and those troops would probably do dishwashing, at the
>majority of their outings, as patrols. Many troops do "car camping" for
>the majority of their events....they may very well do troop dishwashing
>stations. It just depends on the individual troop's program. We do a some
>of both and vary our dishwashing accordingly.
>
>BLUE SKIES!, Any day above ground is a good day!
>
>Jim Peterson
>BS RT Comm, Pelathe Dist
>Heart of America Council Eagle Class of 1963
>ASM, T-55, Lawrence, Kansas Brotherhood, Tamegonit Lodge
>email: kupete@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Mic-O-Say: HW "Shieldmaker"
>
>

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