Re: Fwd: Re: Special Council Shoulder Patches
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Sun, 17 Jan 1999 13:36:56 -0600
Ted Burton <scouter@valint.net> wrote and asked:
>I suspect this is one of those topics that can raise more heat
>than light. I know many people who continue to wear older insignia
>of whatever Council or position, which they 'righteously' obtained
>in the first place.
But does it make it *currently correct*, Ted?? I wear a OA flap
on my uniform shirt from a Lodge which doesn't exist anymore; it
was the last flap I personally received from that Lodge. I refuse
to take it off my shirt except when I'm overseas (and I replace it
with a current issued Black Eagle Lodge flap, the first Lodge I
became an OA member in).
But it is NOT "uniformarily correct" since I'm NOT a member of that
Lodge anymore (nobody is; the Lodge - Zit-Kala-Sha - was merged).
The same would go for those wearing older Council Shoulder Patches
(CSPs) instead of their Council's *current issued one*.
It's a personal issue that each Scouter or Scout has to face and
one in which sometimes brings out the "uniform police."
>I have felt, much as any flag which was ever the
>flag of the United States is entitled to respect as the American
>Flag, so also any insignia which was once lawful insignia remains
>lawful insignia. Absent some express uniform regulation, so long
>as the insignia is of the correct council and position, I would
>regard it as permissible.
To a point, Ted, I agree with you. When I was Scoutmaster, I loved
wearing the fully embrodered Scoutmaster patch (which I earned a
few years back by completing the Cornerstone course as
Scoutmaster). My point was that we as Scouters *should* be
wearning the most current uniforming and insignia corresponding to
our positions in the movement.
>Do we not know many Scouters who continue to wear Explorer green
>shirts of their youth, even thought they are not now currently a
>youth Explorer and it is not now 1954? Is that 'wrong?' I know
>they believe, once an Exploreer always an Explorer.
But that's not true...we know it...but that's how we're justifying
wearing the shirts (and yeah, I've got one of those kelly green
Explorer shirts and a khaki shirt with Explorer, BSA strip too that
I do wear on occasion). My point is that we know it to be
incorrect uniforming, and that we should *strive* to wear the most
current stuff (that is, unless we're illustrating or demonstrating
the wear of the older uniform or insignia).
Settummanque!
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