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Re: Ed Dunn Proposal

John D. Bartron (jbartron@EPIX.NET)
Sun, 19 Apr 1998 14:24:06 -0400


I could agree to this message, I subscribed for Scouting and if my
interests were else where those are the List-servs I would be looking for.
Maybe there are others that should be looking for other list-serves.
jbartron @ epix.ner
John D. Bartron
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Clark <jclark@FENEWS.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L <SCOUTS-L@TCUBVM.IS.TCU.EDU>
Date: Sunday, April 19, 1998 1:14 PM
Subject: Ed Dunn Proposal


>Ed Dunn has proposed a debate and vote format for "conclusion" of the
>"gays in scouting" issue. I am adamantly opposed to this proposal for
>the following reasons:
>
>1. I am not prepared to subrogate my position on this topic to anyone
>as representing my views.
>
>2. If this topic requires "resolution" by this list, it calls for full
>discussion by all.
>
>3. I submit that the views of 800 or 8000 Scouters on this issue means
>absolutely nothing to the conclusion of the matter to the policy makers
>who actually count. For them, this is a matter of conscience, not
>popularity or vote (from inside or outside).
>
>Said another way, save your breath and time!
>
>4. I do not want to be associated with any straw poll on this or any
>other topic. The methods described do not in any statistical sense
>resolve the matter. I would not want my participation or abstention to
>be used as evidence in support for either side.
>
>5. I joined this list to see practical ideas on how to make scouting
>better for me and the scouts who I serve. Comments on matters outside
>my control are a pure waste of time.
>
>Jim Clark
>Seattle
>
>PS I would say the same thing about all the recent non-sensical, time
>wasting talk about the need to change the uniform.
>

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