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Re: Problems W/Webelos Den Leader

Wilbert E. Beran (wberan@WORLDNET.ATT.NET)
Thu, 20 Nov 1997 18:46:23 -0500


I sympathize with you in this. It's difficult to run a good program
without enough committee, willing, focussed adults. You simply can't
do it all.

Having said that, I suggest asking yourself this question: Are the
boys in that Webelos Den getting full benefit out of the program the
Webelos Leader has in place? If the answer is no, you need to replace
her. Not with yourself. You're too overextended. You and your
Committee Chairman must recruit other adult leaders right away. I
know it's easier said than done. I've been there.

david swank wrote:
>
> Once again I'm looking for the advice from you experienced Cub Leaders
> out there. I haven't gotten any constructive help here at home from other
> Pack leaders in different Units, haven't run into the problem before so
> here is another forum for practical advice. And my 2 sounding boards here
> at home have recently moved.
>
> I have a 4th grade Webelos Den Leader who is not doing the Activity Pins
> properly.She did Citizen, a 2 month pin in 2 hours. She did Artist in 2
> hours and Craftsman in 2 1/2 hours. Craftsman is where I find the most
> glaring disregard for the requirememts for the Pin. There has been very
> little wood working, everything has been precut, the kids paint or color
> and all of the difficult stuff is done for the boys "because they won't
> do it right". THe projects are ment for younger kids, from the Cub Scout
> Fun Book, and include "wood" to the most minor extent. They made sock
> puppets. They decorated w/paint a pre cut cardboard frame. They made a
> "Burrometer" on a stick. Unfortunatly the parent helpers did most of the
> work.
>
> For Citizen she told the boys the informaton, they wrote it down, and
> they were finished. No looking it up, no learning it etc, etc, etc. I
> have no idea what they did for Artist but they didn't do a construction,
> a mobile or work with clay. I was with another Den at the time of their
> meeting.
>
> The leader has gone to Basic Training, I was on the Training Team. Before
> my last "sounding Board" moved 2 weeks ago, (she knew this leader better
> than I do) My sounding board told me if I questioned her, the Den Leader
> would probably quit.I don't know how to broach the subject in a way she
> won't be offended but still get my point across. I have had so much
> leader change over this year that I play a part in 3 Dens along with
> being Cubmaster. The Den Leader in question is also handling the Tiger
> Den. If she were to quit I'd have to do those Dens, too, if the boys were
> to stay on. The Leader is VERY VERY competitive and has to be the best.
> I'm afraid she is trying to have her Den get all of the Pins in record
> time.I have been a Webelos Den Leader for 2 years(bridged last April) and
> my boys did get the chance to work on all of the Pins except the Aquanaut
> in Den Meetings. But we worked in the Summer for 2 years and really
> worked hard the rest of the time. I also have the 5th grade Den for this
> year.
>
> I'm terrified to bring up the subject to the Leader. She doesn't help
> with anything much but her Den. She doesn't go to any of the 'advanced
> training" like PowWow, Roundtable, etc. But I can't take on anything else
> at this time and I shouldn't have to. I wouldn't worry about it except
> these kids will have no conception of what is involved when they get to
> Boy Scouts where the requirements are not to be changed,and to be done as
> written. Then the Webelos in the 5th grade this year are hurt that they
> spent 6 weeks on Citizen and 5 weeks on Artist and the 4th graders are
> getting the Pins handed to them. There are hard feelings all around.
>
> What would you do?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> YIS,
> Kristen Swank
> Cubmaster & Jack of All Trades, Pack 392
> Winnsboro, Tx

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