Re: hazing problems

Charlie,
I feel I must repond.
You say,

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From: Scouts-L Youth Group List on behalf of Charlie Folks
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 1997 5:41 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list SCOUTS-L
Subject: Re: hazing problems

I'm afraid I must disagree to some point with the other responses to this
message. I know that hazing is illegal according to national policy, but
you're not going to get scouts to stop. First of all, as younger scouts we
had the same done to us, so we take it upon ourselves to 'continue the
tradition'. Secondly, as long as it is done only jokingly, and the
perpetrators stop when asked by the younger scout (if they ask...) I see no
problem with it.
So let me get this straight. If the younger Scouts are too intimidated to ask
the hazing to stop, then this is ok?

I'm not saying that I believe in hazing (I can see myself getting alot of
e-mail about what I've said), meerly that it's just an 'unnofficial' part
of scouting that can be controled (somewhat) and as long as there are some
rules set out beforehand by the adults (if the scouts says stop, you stop;
dont do anything that could be physically harmful; etc...)
But you _are_ saying you believe in hazing. If adults set rules that say
you cannot do these pranks and they are still being done, what makes you think
these boys will listen to a younger Scout asking you to stop.........

This is the way my troop operates in regard to 'prank night' at scout camp,
and we've had only one problem that was more with parents complaining then
the kids.
And do you see why parents would complain? My goodness. These are children
we are talking about and the impressions and examples we set for them will
last well into their adulthood. Think of them as people. Young people.
Nobody should ever have to go through any ridicule nor made to feel that they
must go through something humiliating or painful, emotional or physical, to
belong. An eye for an eye? I don't think so!

well, that's just my oppinion....dont get _too_ upset...

Charlie
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Charlie Folks
Sophomore, Jennings High School
mailto:c.folks@jennings.net
"WWW-It means more then you think"

and that is my opinion which we are _all_ entitled to.

Laureen De.
Den Leader
Advancement Chair
MOM, first and foremost

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