Re: Fw: How do you dismiss a SM
Ira Wallenstein (Wallen1@AOL.COM)
Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:59:51 -0500
In a message dated 97-03-31 01:27:22 EST, c60clg1@corn.cso.niu.edu (golden
cliff) writes:
<< The charter is illegal. It should have never been processed. Several
people should have caught it, first the unit committee, then the district
commissioner's staff, and finally the council registrar. Someone was
asleep at the wheel.
Back to the problem of removal of a Scoutmaster.
The COR does not remove the Scoutmaster, it is the Head of the Chartered
Organization (unless the Head has delegated that responsibility to the COR)
There are two signatures required from the unit for recharter, the unit
leader (Scoutmaster for a troop) and the Head of the Chartered
Organization. The COR does not sign the charter.
The unit leader's signature certifies the youth membership while the Head of
the Chartered Organization's signature certifies the adult membership.
The Head of the Chartering Organization can remove the Scoutmaster. The
unit is owned by the Chartering Organization, not the Troop Committee.
If any single individual can claim ownership of a unit, it is the Head of
the Chartering Organization.
If the Chartering Organization wants the Scoutmaster to stay, he stays.
Removal of a Scoutmaster suggests a very desparate situation. I assume
you have totally exhausted all other means to address the problem.
Your unit/district Commissioner or District Executive should be answering
these questions for you. If you have not contacted any of them trying
to solve your unit's problems, then I would personally suggest you are
out-of-line in pursuing removal of the Scoutmaster.
There are many factors to consider, and I am sure your problem is very
complex. This is probably not something to find solutions to over the
internet. This is a problem of people, which are usually best solved
face to face.
The charter problem with dual registration of an individual as both
Scoutmaster and COR needs to be pointed out to your DC or DE immediately.
I am merely attemting to answer the question regarding the mechanics of
removing a Scoutmaster, as I understand them to be. At the unit level
the mechanics are fairly easy, but the decision to do so is not.
Do not act in haste.
>>
Thank you for the information.
Unfortunately the troop in which I was involved, the SM/COR is the only
member of the chartered organization. What the SM told the troop committee
was that any attempt to remove him as SM would result in him as COR removing
the troop committee.
Despite numerous abuses by the SM (fiscal abusues and verabl abuses to the
scouts) and having these abuses laid out to both National and the Greater
New York Council no real investigation was ever conducted and he remains SM.
Going to the Council or the DE with this type of problem in New York City is
a waste of time and it is their intent to cover up any situation that
reflects poorly on BSA.
I hope that units in other parts of the country receive more concern from
their local councils than I did.
Yours In Scouting,
Ira
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