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Re: Gopher Song

Leslie D. Fife (ldfife@BACHMAN.CS.OU.EDU)
Wed, 31 Jul 1996 08:17:15 -0500


CHUCK BRAMLET wrote:
>
> I don't mind identifying myself as the person with whom Leslie was
> corresponding. I am not ashamed of my stand, here.

I thought you might identify yourself, but did not wish to do so without
your okey dokey. Didn't mean to imply that you were ashamed. My apologies.

>
> The point that I tried to make, is that the kids (boys and girls both)
> will go for the gross stuff if for no other reason than the shock value
> of "Nice little Jimmy said _what_?". I would rather teach them one of
> these songs at a meeting or camp, than have them learn the words to
> something like "Canal Street" or worse, on the street.

I really don't think these are our only two choices. Gross songs or
completely unacceptable ones. There are other fun songs to learn and
sing. The other problem is with the boy who doesn't like this type of
song, and probably doesn't fit in well anyway. He is now unnecessarily
uncomfortable.

>
> A quick read thru the contents of my copy of the "Wood Badge Song Book",
> under the catagory "fun", lists "Tom the Toad", "I'm looking over (my Dead
> Dog Rover)", and 2 different versions of "Underwear", among many others.
> There is an old saying about all work and no play making Jack a dull boy.
> Is it _that_ necessary that _everything_ done in a meeting teach the
> "proper" things? That we avoid something that is just strictly for fun,
> because it doesn't happen to _teach_ something that the kids need to learn?

Fun is great - and possible - without these songs IMO.

>
> Using these songs _might_ be a way to help keep the interest level for a
> while. And I dare say that _most_ of these were probably sanctioned by the
> Founder, himself.

I dare say that the founder lived in a different time, and was not infallible
even then. Oops - blasphemy.

>
> YiS,
>
> Chuck Bramlet, ASM Troop 323
> Thunderbird District, Grand Canyon Council, Phoenix, Az.
>
> I "used to be" an Antelope! (and a good ol' Antelope, too...) WEM-10-95
> Please E-mail any replies to: >> chuckb@aztec.asu.edu <<
> Member DNRC
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