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Re: 1st Class Cooking Requirement

Jim Smith UT (jsmith@SAREK.OSMRE.GOV)
Fri, 22 Mar 1996 08:31:21 -0700


Adding my $.02 worth, my dictionary defines cooking as preparing food
for eating by means of heat. I`m sure other dictionaries have similar
definitions

> From: David Richter <DWR4X4@AOL.COM> >
> After reading some of the recent postings on this subject, I would like to
> submit the following for a breakfast meal.
>
> 1. Pop-tart type pastry
> 2. Heat until warm
> 3. Serve with boxed juice drink
>
> Ridiculous. Yes, but probably not to many of you.

Ridiculous, YES!!! Kellogg`s or General Mills or whomever cooked the
pastry, not the Scout. After the manufacturer/processor has cooked
them, they are ready to eat and are frequently eaten cold right out of
the package, especially by Scouts on campouts!

Where`s the preparation for eating using heat in the boxed juice drink?
Again, it was the manufacturer/processor, not the Scout.

This line of thinking can be carried too far, of course, but if the
Scout at least takes water or (prepackaged) milk, heats the liquid if
appropriate, and adds (prepackaged) cocoa or other drink mix, he has
produced a final product that wasn`t present in the original package(s).
(Yes, I too have seen Scouts eat cocoa mix dry, right out of the package!)

------------------------------
> From: Susan Ganther <susan@EMAIL.UNC.EDU>
>
> Starting from a can is fine, but merit badges should be awarded for
> merit, so too should first class requirements. If the requirement says
> cook, then they should cook or at least have the experience of trying
> their best...

and>

> There is a big difference in using some canned ingredients and in opening
> a can and dumping out the main course. Is it unreasonable to expect a
> boy to learn how to peel a few carrots, onions and potatoes and brown some
> beef instead of opening a can of beef stew?

Susan, I agree wholeheartedly. It is absolutely NOT unreasonable to
expect such effort from a Scout!

Again, Dinty Moore or whomever is the cook of the canned stew, not the
Scout. As unappetizing as it may sound, stew can be eaten cold,
directly from the can. Same for almost all canned products (Other than
dehydrated products packaged in cans, I can`t readily think of any
canned product that can`t be eaten directly from the can without further
cooking: are there any?)

> I doubt that opening a can of
> stew and calling himself a cook is going to build character in anyone. It
> reeks to me of an honor violation. Maybe this thread would be more
> productive if we started soliciting easy recipes instead.
----------------------------------------
>
> Susan,
> I remember for my 1st class (mid '60's) meal it was hobo stew all
> the way.
> I had to cut carrots, onions and celery. Brown hamburger, add two
> cans of Campbells vegetable soup, one can of corn (it was hard to
> find fresh ears of corn in Hawaii, but we had lots of pineapples!) and
> then cook macaroni and the big requirement was to have the stew
> and macaroni be ready at the same time. Then cook some camp
> toast and of course finished up with cobbler for dessert.
>
> Mark A. Michalski Auburn Hills, Michigan

Yes! Canned ingredients as part of a recipe. Leave out the canned
soup and corn, add water of course, and this still would be a nutritious
and tasty(?) meal. I suspect the canned products provided salt and some
other seasonings in addition to the needed liquid. (Pineapple in the
stew might have been interesting.)

YIS
James D. SMITH
jsmith@sarek.osmre.gov

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