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Re: Uniform Uniform

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Wed, 29 Nov 1995 14:23:11 -0600


Chuck wrote (in part):

>Then there are the adults. We should be in complete uniform at all
>times--even if the pants keep shrinking in the waist (which they seem to do
>just hangning in the closet!). It's not really that hard. On the other
>hand, I hate the socks so I wear brown orlon ones. And then there's my
>"untrainable" patch.

You have one of those too?? *heheheheehee*

Just to let everyone else in on the tease, the BSA in 1972 initially
intended for the position patch to tell others if they were trained or not.
Special fully-embrordered
position patches (or special mylar-bordered and "wreathed" patches in the
cases of professionals) denoted at that (short) time, those Scouters whom
were "fully trained" for the job they held from those that just "learning
the job".

Quickly, two groups of Scouters started forming...not the two the BSA
intended. It was hoped that the beautifully crafted patches, only available
to those that had a
green (I STILL have mine, in my wallet!) "training certificate" card, would
entice
those that NEED the training to get it, if only just to get the "special
Scoutmaster's patch" or the other special ones. In other words, the
"trained" and the "not trained". It didn't happen that way. Instead, we
saw some Scouters serving in several positions only so that "they can get
and wear the full-embrodered version"
and others willing to pay holders up to $75 for one of the special patches
(which local Councils would not sell to them for the regular $5).

So, in 1978, the BSA stopped producing those patches and instead issued a
"throw-back" to the old "Trained" strips used in the 50s and 60s...a fully
embrodered
strip with the word "Trained" on it. This strip is to be worn by those that
have completed basic training for their particular position. The old
patches would continue to be available until their stocks were exhausted.

[for those patch buffs, there were 18 special patches created: Scoutmaster,
Assistant Scoutmaster, Cubmaster, Assistant Cubmaster, Den Leader Coach, Den
Leader, Assistant Den Leader, Den Mother, Assistant Den Mother, Pack
Committee Chairman, Pack Committee, Troop Committee, District Executive,
Council Executive Staff, District Executive Staff, and Unit Commissioner.
Additionally, there's also a Explorer Advisor
and Explorer President patch created, but those were NOT "official". The
majority of the "Cornerstone series" (taken from the name of the basic
training program) patches were Scoutmaster, Assistant Scoutmaster,
Cubmaster, Assistant Cubmaster, Den Leader Coach and Den Leader/Den Mother
patches.]

Of course, imitiation is a form of flattery, and there were several Scouters
that have created their OWN version of the "Trained" strip to cover some of
us Scouters that have perhaps have done too much training. These strips,
identical in size and colors (except the fleur-de-lis which makes it a
"official" BSA patch) to the real one, come in two flavors: one, which
states "Overtrained"; and the other which states "Untrainable".

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