2 deep MB counseling

Glenn,

Please read your last or two issues (not the one I got yesterday) in the all
important News Briefs section, as the MB ruling was very clearly
explained and has just been changed again.

A boy AND a buddy go to the MB counselor; or a boy and his parent.

Your training is quite correct. Kentucky usually is.

Kathie

>
> This thread is confising. In our training we were told that two-deep
> leadership meant at least two leaders, one scout _or_ one leader and two
> scouts. That way merit badge counseling would be covered with one
> counseler taking care of multiple scouts. Is our training against the
> national policies? We were shown a video explaining this policy at
> Scoutmaster training explaining what I have stated.
>
> Glenn Darwin
> ASM Troop 461
> Louisville, KY
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Sep 1995, Marc Solomon wrote:
>
> > At 12:34 PM 9/25/95 -0400, Maj Jon Danner wrote:
> > >As I understand it, two-deep leadership means that you ALWAYS have to have
> > >at least two adults with any group of scouts, whether it is a campout, troo
p
> > >meeting, or driving in a car to/from an event. The only exception is merit
> > >badge counseling. Here, instead of two leaders, it is only two people.
> > >Another scout, a parent, or even a sibling is acceptable.
> > >I do not understand why MB counseling is treated differently than a troop
> > >meeting. The troop meeting, which requires two leaders, is usually held in
> > >a public meeting area. Merit badge counseling is frequently held in the
> > >counselor's home.
> >
> > Jon -
> >
> > Two-deep leadership is to make sure that in the case of an emergency
> > requiring one of the leaders to leave, there will still be a leader to stay
> > with the remaining Scouts. Youth protection requirements are set up to
> > prevent improper conduct or the false accusation of improper conduct of a
> > leader. Both make a lot of sense, but you can see that where the use of
> > each of these rules apply differently to the two situations. Another
> > example of where two-deep leadership is not required but Youth Protection
> > Policies still apply would be in Scoutmaster Conferences. A Scoutmaster
> > counseling a Scout at eithers home would not need two-deep leadership but
> > would still require another person present to prevent an opportunity for
> > improper conduct or the false accusation of such.
> >
> > QUESTION: Is two-deep leadership required while driving in a car to/from
> > events? I understood that one adult could drive multiple Scouts as long as
> > there were other adults at the departure, arrival, and any stops along the w
ay
> .
> >
> > Yours in Scouting,
> >
> > +--------------------------+-----------------------+
> > | Marc W. Solomon | Unit Commissioner |
> > | msolomon@tek1.tekniq.com | Sycamore District |
> > | marcsol@aol.com | Blackhawk Council, IL |
> > +--------------------------+-----------------------+
> > I use to be a wise old owl . . . Now I am just old
> >
>
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