SCOUTER Interactive - Your Guide to Scout Out the Net! SCOUTER Magazine and Network
SCOUTER  |  NetCompass  |  NetRoster  |  Forums  |  ClipArt  |  Headlines  |  Auctions  

You are 1 of 758 Active Users

 Locator >
SCOUTER : archives : Scouts-L : December 1994 : Post
Menu > Email this page to a friend Send page to friend
 

Check out the new SCOUTER Discussion Forums and Post Your Questions Now!

Re: A Bad Night at Scouts

Ed Roberts (Ed.Roberts@DP.HQ.AF.MIL)
Tue, 13 Dec 1994 07:56:51 EST


Richard,

Don't give up. I hit that point in 1991 with my troop, and even my
committee was against me. I confided with my Unit Commissioner and the
District Commissioner. They were actually alot of help for me and gave me
the information that I needed to keep the towel beside the ring and go in
punching.

If your committee is behind you, talk to the committee chairperson or
organizational representative, and they can help you with your Assistant
Scoutmaster, i.e. the Wanna-Be Scoutmaster. In response to the election,
did the ABSENTEE SPL appoint a good ASPL? If so, depend upon him, and he
will see how the election was a mess, which he could ask the committee/PLC
for another election.

Remember, I have been there before, and I am still sticking in there,
because I believe in the movement.

Ed Roberts
Committee Member Troop 1033
Beltsville MD

I used to be an Antelope.....
-------------
Original Text
From Richard Ickler <ICKLERR@DELPHI.COM>, on 12/13/94 12:04 AM:
Tonight I had one of those Scout meetings that I would really like to
forget.
Unfortunately I can't. As the Scoutmaster, I really felt like a failure
even though I knew that it was a situation out of my control.

I have really been making an effort to overcome my instincts and allow the
boys to develop their own program with just some oversight. Still, it was
all that I could do to allow the boys to make the disastorous mistakes they
did. It was SPL and PL election night. For SPL they had two good
candidates
and one candidate who is popular and a nice guy but this was his first
meeting since June. Guess who won (Mr. Absentee). For Patrol Leader of
the
older boys Patrol they had three candidates, one who was qualified, and two
who were ineligible, one because he wasn't First Class which is a
requirement
in our troop, the other because he had only been about four meetings over
six
months and isn't yet registered in our troop. They elected the one who
isn't
yet registered. I'm now going to have to figure out how to deal with
showing
them that they made a major mistake without being the "Big Boss".
Fortunately, I have until January because we follow the school holidays.

After that fiasco comes the "coup de grace". Since I took over as
Scoutmaster I have had to deal with an Assistant who really wanted the
Scoutmaster title but wouldn't do the job. Since that time, he has been
constantly playing the kindergartener with wounded pride. He has not
missed
a chance to make snide remarks or to resist anything I might suggest. In
the
last couple of months he has decided that he (through a surrogate) was
going
to do the annual planning meeting. Tonight it was announced that they were
going to a local mountain resort this weekend. This was the first time I
heard about this and when I said that I couldn't go this weekend, ASM's
response was a very sarcastic, "what do you have to do this weekend?" I
hope
that they have a fun time but unfortunately that is exactly what it will be
because no one who is going will spend any time on planning. At this point,
I also expect to simply accept whatever plans they make and start over
again
as part of dealing with the PLC election fiasco.

I really was close to quitting tonight but I think I still have a few more
months of fight in me before I throw in the towel. Now I just need to
figure
out my next move. Any suggestions/comments are welcome. I will also
graciously listen to criticism.

YIS

Richard Ickler
Scoutmaster, Troop 14
Long Beach, CA

icklerr@delphi.com
icklerr@corp.macom.com

Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City

A few Commercial Links from the SCOUTER NetCompass...


Featured Link Packsacks BWCAW Canoe TripsClick here for more information
Packsacks BWCAW Canoe Trips, located at the edge of the Boundary Waters, is a resort and canoe outfitting base. PACKSACK is in the midst of fishing at its finest! PACKSACK offers a wilderness adventure of canoe trips into the BWCA and Quetico Park,

Featured Link Cascade OutfittersClick here for more information
Cascade Outfitters sells top quality rafts, kayaks, river and camping equipment.

Featured Link CO - Colorado Whitewater RaftingClick here for more information
Exciting, Affordable and fun rafting adventures on Colorado's favorite rivers for all ages and abilities with one of Colorado's most experienced and trusted river outfitters. May qualify for a merit badge.

Featured Link Arrowheads For Arrow of Light AwardsClick here for more information
Purchase authentic looking, hand crafted arrowheads for less than .25 cents each. Perfect for making ceremonial arrows. Made of stone, these are top notch replicas!

Featured Link It Takes Two: Scrapbooking & FundraisingClick here for more information
Boy Scout papers and stickers for scrapbooking

Featured Link Fundraising DepotClick here for more information
Fundraising's DISCOUNT Superstore featuring hundreds of great fundraising products & programs.

Featured Link Corn maze, Pumpkin Patch & Country FunClick here for more information
Get lost...in over 20 acres of cornfield mazes including a Haunted Maze at Dewberry Farm! Shoot the incredible Corn Cannon, take a hayride to the pumpkin patch, or have a campout around a campfire.

Add your link to SCOUTER NetCompass





Join SCOUTER.com

Join SCOUTER.com and participate in the Discussion Forums & receive our email newsletters. First, please enter your e-mail address. We'll see if we have you in our records (must be complete and valid e-mail address to complete registration):

E-mail address

Postal/ZipCode


Site Members Login


SCOUTER Forums

Share your questions, answers and ideas in the SCOUTER Forums!


FREE Web Hosting from SCOUTER!
SCOUTER.com provides free web hosting to more than 2,000 Scout units!

What's become of SCOUTER Magazine, the print publication?

Buy the Back Issues

NetCompass
Categories

Advancement
Calendar
Campfires
Discussion Lists
Graphics and Clipart
Leaders Resource
Medical Issues Library
Meeting Activities
Scout Skills
Scouting History
Scouting Organizations
Service To America
Training
Where To Go
Youth Protection

Sponsors

Site Dedication

SCOUTER celebrates the life of William Hillcourt... Scoutmaster to the World and the founding inspiration for the grassoots resources we share.

© 1994-2005 SCOUTER.com. All rights reserved.

SCOUTER is an independent publication and has been the primary Scouting portal on the web since 1994.
It is not officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America, the Girl Scouts of the USA or the World Organization of Scout Movements.
Web Developer/SaaS Hosting by FastRoot, Chicago - Terry Howerton

spacer.gif (57 bytes)