Re: Al "knot"ted up
Freemason@AOL.COM
Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:08:50 EDT
On Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:59:39 CST, "Settummanque, the blackeagle"
<waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU>wrote:
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>Freemason@AOL.COM writes:There are (in my copy of the >Scoutmaster's
Handbook) 29 square knots illustrated in color on >pages 244 and 245.
Additionally, there is now a square knot for the >Hornaday Award (looks like
the Eagle except the red parts are >green); the Tiger Coach Award (black and
orange); the
>James West Fellowship (I forgot what it looked like); the Ranger >Award
(brown knot on khaki); the Ace Award (dark blue and red >ropes on khahi or
sky blue); the early version of the Silver Award >(red and gold ropes on dark
blue background); the previous version >of the Cub Scouter Award which was
called the Den Leader Coach >Training Award (we had an earlier "trivial
trivia" in which the question >was raised "which square knot is the ONLY one
which can be worn >TWICE to represent TWO DISTINCTIVELY DIFFERENT >AWARDS?",
which the answer was the Cub Scouter Award (the >present use) and the Den
Leader Coach Award (the older one); and >the Youth Leadership in America
Award (which presently is the top >silver bar with the lettering
"Leadership").
>Now, in recounting....I come up with 37 (oops! Never was good with >the
math! Sorry. There are 37 presently unless I missed one >someplace).
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Mike, it seems that you're not the only one who could count - I only counted
30 (Hornaday Award is in mine). That leaves 32, with the Tiger Cub Coach and
Silver Dollar - oops, I mean James West Fellowship - Award currently listed
for wearing.
Although it would be legal to wear the Silver, Ace and Ranger knots, I
thought that the Explorer Achievement Award knot replaced all those.
Actually, I have not seen any old-timers wear those knots, and to get them
from the memorabilia sales lists (a real one, that is) is almost as expensive
as buying the medals themselves! (I have a friend who earned the Silver
Award, and I've been looking for a medal for him - his got damp and ruined -
it's really crusty. Maybe someone on the list knows where the ribbon for the
old Silver Award can be found? The medallion may be salvagable by a
reputable jeweller). Even the fake knots are getting a pretty penny!
This discussion kinda goes along with the thread on old "permanent" awards.
Maybe it's time for National to compile a list of those old permanent awards
and include them in an Appendix in the Insignia Control Guide, including
proper wearing.
YiS, WWW,
Randy Spradling
Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City |
