Re: SCOUTS-L Digest - 29 May 1996 to 31 May 1996
Torbert (storbert@WHRO.ORG)
Fri, 31 May 1996 06:07:29 -0400
> Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:05:00 GMT
> From: "Bruce E. Cobern" <bec@NYC.PIPELINE.COM>
> Subject: Re: OA Elections
>
> On May 30, 1996 12:02:52, '"Paul H. Brown" <phbrown@CAPACCESS.ORG>' wrote:
>
> >You have 10 year olds with 15 nites of camping, including a long-term
> >camp? Just _how_ early did the scout complete the 5th grade in order for
> >this to happen?
>
> Well, let's see if I can work the math. Assume a boy is born in December.
> Also assuming that grade is determined by the year of birth, with all
> children born the same calendar year in the same grade. (That's the way it
> was, isn't it still basically the same?)
The person I was talking about was born January '86. Elections were
conducted in his troop in earlyJanuary, so he was just 9 when his election
took place. I am not sure (haven't been a Weblos in a while), but I think
it's pretty close to impossible to earn AofL in that time. I'd say more
than likely, he skipped a grade, thereby completing the 5th grade early.
> And, if the lodge holds a fall Ordeal for which he is eligible it is
> technically possible for him to even be inducted before his 11th birthday.
Actually, I think that he already went through an ordeal.
> Now, how frequently will this happen? Not often. Should the SM approve
> this Scout for election when he is so young? Depends.
Fortunately, it doesn't happen that frequently. This year, we had one
9-year-old, no 10-year-olds, 5 11-year olds. and a large number of other
age groups.
>
> My gut tells me that, more than likely, Scouts who are in this situation
> are there because the troop accepted them for membership before they were
> qualified or eligible. I have seen instances where troops have taken boys
> in BEFORE summer camp after 4th grade. Of course, if those boys are
> motivated they get to be in the situation being discussed, even though they
> should not be.
I suppose this was possible. I am only the elections chairman. I only
key in the data on the election forms. I don't know what happens out in
the "field". You do have to remember, though, the fact that someone can
skip a grade makes all the difference.
Yours in Scouting,
David Torbert
Unit Elections Chairman
Blue Heron Lodge, #349
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