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"Paul S. Wolf" <Paul.S.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU> Wrote on Wed,
24 May 2000 12:55:40 -0400

>It does seem like a Catch-22, but I do understand the
>reasoning. It's one of those "Damned if you do and damned
>if you don't" rules that fall out of the Youth Protection
>requirements. A Youth must be a youth (i.e. <21) for the
>entire Jamboree and an Adult must be an adult (i.e. >21)
>for the entire Jamboree, in order to HOUSE only youth with
>youth and adults with adults at all times. But I'm sure
>that someone like your son, who is turning 21 DURING Jambo
>feels that he IS an adult.
>
>I feel they should have left the youth rule as is, and
>changed the rule for adults to read "anyone born before
>8/1/80" (i.e. >21 when Jambo ends.) Since for everything
>EXCEPT Jambo staff and membership in OA or in Venturing,
>Adult is considered to be age 18 anyway, having a rule
>that says "For Jamboree, Adult is to be considered anyone
>who is or will be over age 21 on the last day of the
>Jamboree" would seem to be an acceptable method of
>handling the issue. (Of course that also means that those
>few people currently in the Catch-22 situation, if allowed
>to serve, will be forced to pay the higher, adult, rate.)

Actually, while I don't know about Venturing, in the OA, for
YOUTH PROTECTION purposes (as opposed to leadership purposes)
the adult/youth age split is still 18. The same holds true for
Philmont expeditions. In counting your allowable youth vs adult
quota anyone under 21 is a youth, but in calculationg the two
deep leadership/yp requirements the second leader can be an 18
year old ASM. While the OA, at NOACs assigns rooms to 3 age
groups, under 18, 18-21, over 21, the bathroom/shower facilities,
in dorms with communal facilities, are only broken down into
over and under 18. So, I have no idea what the rationale behind
the Jambo situation is. (Which is that for one group they use
the beginning of the jamboree and for the other the end.)

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