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From: Bob Myers (rmyers@FOCUSMGT.COM)
Date: Fri May 05 2000 - 19:41:35 CDT


Peter,

In my single experience with a National Tour Permit 4 years ago, the
regional office that signed off on ours (2nd time through) did not follow
the 10 hour rule at all. They translated it to 600 expressway miles. We
had about 610 miles the first time and it was rejected. We changed our
route to go through Chicago instead of around it, saving about 15 miles but
adding time. It was approved. By the way, we also got stuck in a 2 hour
traffic jam in Chicago.

YiS,

Bob Myers
Cincinnati, Ohio

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-----Original Message-----
From: Scouts-L Youth Group List [mailto:Scouts-L@listserv.tcu.edu]On Behalf
Of plsander@US.IBM.COM
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 1:21 PM
To: SCOUTS-L@LISTSERV.TCU.EDU
Subject: Another GSS question

Hello,

Recently in planning our contingent's travel plans the following question
came up about the 10 hour travel limit:

Does the time spent in the "frequent rest, food, and recreation stops"
count in the 10 hour total travel time per day?

The relevent section in the GSS reads:

"Driving time is limited to a maximum of 10 hours and must be
       interrupted by frequent rest, food, and recreation stops. If there
is
       only one driver, the driving time should be reduced and stops should
       be made more frequently. "

So, does the travel for the day stop 10 hours after we get on the road?
for example:
     Start driving at 8:00am,
     rest break for 15min at 9:30am
     lunch break at 12:00 for 1hour
     rest break for 15min at 2:30pm
     rest break for 15min at 4:00pm
     Stop driving at 6:00pm and eat dinner
for at total of 8.25 hours of driving (1.75 hours rest/relax )

Or does the 10 hour clock only run when actually driving?
So that in the above senario, we could add a couple more breaks, or stop at
 an attraction during the day, and
drive another 1.75 hours after dinner till we must stop.

Thanks
Peter Sanders



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