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From: Paul S. Wolf (Paul.s.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU)
Date: Tue Apr 25 2000 - 07:33:34 CDT


David Kenison wrote:

> To clarify the situation - I think the problem has to do with a scout
> joining Venturing. My council office maintains that if a scout has
> not earned the first class award before he becomes a Venturer, he can
> advance to Life but not to Eagle, even if he has time to complete the
> appropriate requirements. They were not able to provide a reference
> for that yesterday, but will try to come up with one today.
>
> In LDS troops, where boys are routinely advanced to Varsity and
> Venturer groups at age 14 and 16, this could be an issue for a scout
> who becomes enthused later on.
>
> David Kenison, Orem, Utah

AH!! Now we know the rest of the story!!!

A Scout may not earn ANY Boy Scout Advancements in a Venturing Crew,
unless he has earned First Class in a Boy Scout Troop or Varsity Scout
Team.

Source: Boy Scout Requirements (#33215C):

     Rank Advancement for Venturers and Sea Scouts

     The following requirements apply to boys, including Sea Scouts,
     registered in the Venturing Program.

        Any male Venturer who has achieved the First Class rank as a
        Boy Scout in a troop or Varsity Scout in a team may continue
        advancement toward Star, Life and Eagle Scout ranks up to his
        18th birthday.

        He must meet the requirements as prescribed in the official Boy
        Scout Handbook and the current Boy Scout Requirements book.

        The Venturer may fulfill leadership requirements by serving as
        president, vice president, secretary, or treasurer of his crew,
        or as boatswain, boatswain's mate, yeoman, purser, or
        storekeeper for his ship.

        The Scoutmaster conference will be conducted by the Advisor or
        Skipper.

        As the Venturer meets requirements for the Star and Life ranks,
        a board of review will be conducted by the crew or ship
        committee.

        The Eagle board of review should follow the procedures
        established by the local council.

Thus, for LDS Venturers, if they want to continue to advance, they must
earn First Class before they turn 16, UNLESS they also register in a
traditional Troop or Team in addition to their registration in a
Venturing Crew. (They may have to find a NON-LDS sponsored unit to do
so.)

--
Paul S. Wolf, PE                       mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Advancement/Safety Webmaster, USSSP            http://www.usscouts.org



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