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From: Donald R Izard (dizard@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU)
Date: Tue Feb 29 2000 - 15:54:41 CST


  The list is looping arround to an OLD topic again on
  the merit badge issue. And recent comments bring up
  the same questions again concerning contacting the
  counselor - BEFORE YOU BEGIN! What does that mean?

  What about the scout that is already on the varsity swim team
  and KNOWS how to swim - before he starts swimming MB?
  "learning" is not "demonstrating the skill" to the counselor.

    Or if a scout already has a COIN and/ Stamp collections?
    You think that the councilor says - go start a NEW ONE?

    NO - the scouts should not START working on the specific or unique
    projects or tasks in the requirements until he has talked to
    the councilor - but NOTHING prohibits a scout from LEARNING
    the skills or doing some research before he talks to a councilor!

    And MUCH of what is expected - can be done over the phone!
    The major reason to talk to the counselor is to make sure
    YOU agree on what is expected to be "demonstrated" to
    measure "completion". So that the scout does NOT interpret
    the requirements to mean one thing - and go do it - and find
    out the counselor expects/requires something else.

    heck - we already have that on the list - with disagreements
    about HOW a badge MUST be completed, or MUST be completed
    within a year etc.

    Some of these kids that I counsel for Computers aleady
    have a better web page that I do . . and are programming
    with Java and perl or cgi etc. Do I tell them - NO - they
    already KNOW too much to earn the MB? I wish I could hire
    some of them!

Scouter Don
still counseling merit badges - since 1970



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