From: Paul S. Wolf (PaulWolf@CUYCTYENGINEERS.ORG)
Date: Fri Jan 28 2000 - 11:40:23 CST
Murphy Peter wrote:
>
> > any one that refuses to practice two deep leadership in *ALL*
> > scouting activities has no business being a leader. It is a small
> > price to pay
Once again, Two Deep and Youth Protection are SEPARATE issues.
Two Deep Leadership is required ONLY for Trips and Outings, where
normally at least 2 adults must be present.
(See: http://www.scouting.org/pubs/gss/gss01.html)
Youth Protection applies all the time, and only requires that no adult
be alone with a youth that is not his/her child. (i.e. If adults and
youth are both present, either 2 adults or 2 youth must be present as a
minimum) (See: http://www.scouting.org/pubs/gss/gss14.html)
> Steve, I respectfully disagree with *ALL*. Yes, we should practice
> two deep leadership for the protection and safety of the Scouts
> and the Scouters. But what do you do in these situations:
>
> Before the second adult leader arrives, does the first adult at the
> meeting bar all Scouts from entering the meeting place? Maybe
> have them stand outside in the rain or cold.
No. As long as at least 3 people are present, there is no problem.
this is a YP issue.
> Do two adults have to remain behind after everyone has left except
> the last Scout who's parents are late picking him up?
Yes.
> Are two adults required to be in each vehicle during all travel?
NO. As long as 3 people are in the vehicle. This is specifically
covered in the Guide to Safe Scouting.
> We may take 4 to 6 adults on an outing because we need that many
> cars to transport all of the Scouts going on the outing.
> If none of the assistant Scoutmasters show up for a meeting, are
> we required to cancel it and send everyone home?
No, as long as at least 2 youth show up.
> Asking for the written policy simply tells us which situations
> REQUIRE two deep leadership. Without two-deep leadership in the
> REQUIRED situations, the activity must be cancelled. For other
> situations, we should strive for two-deep leadership but can
> substitute having another PERSON instead of another ADULT present. I
> believe meeting with a merit badge counselor falls into this later
> category.
True.
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Paul S. Wolf, PE mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Advancement/Safety Webmaster, USSSP http://www.usscouts.org
