Re: Push-ups and Hazing, etc.

James H. Brown wrote:

> I'm sure there are lodges out there that do drive kids to tears at OA
> ordeals, I'm equally sure that there are rogue SMs out there that drive kids
> to tears with all manner of discipline (push-ups, laps, time outs, staying
> after the meeting, etc.)

Unfortunately, you are probably correct in this statement. Where we
differ is that I think a lot of good can be accomplished in the ordeal,
but I can't think of a good reason to use push-ups as a punishment. OK,
they burn off some energy, but your program should allow for that
anyway. I don't buy the fitness argument; surely you don't administer
them often enough to qualify as a training regimen?

YiS,

John Conley
Arrowhead District Commissioner
Finger Lakes Council (NY)

*Better to build boys than mend men*

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