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Life rank requirements HELP (long)

Gladys Jenner (sdjenner@AIRMAIL.NET)
Fri, 22 May 1998 11:25:41 -0500


Due to beliefs of some that you can't have a 13 year old Eagle Scout -
there has been some hot and heavy discussion among out troop leadership.
This has mainly been about setting up "standards of expectation" for
Life Rank (it should be about half way of where the boy is now and what
we expect of an Eagle Scout) in regards to leadership, abilities, and
behavior. We are being challenged by some parents that say this is not
following policy.

As all this blew up, the SM was suddenly sent on a 3 month assignment
for his company and I was appointed "Acting SM". I am turning to the
list for help since I do see both sides (need for maturity and not
adding requirements) and don't know which way to go.

The following is the requirements and how I see them:
1. Be active in troop and patrol for 6 months.
To be registered and attend meetings and campouts regularly.

2. Demonstrate Scout Spirit....
Follow the Scout oath and law in everyday life. No disciplinary
actions needed from school, home, or at meetings/campouts. Do your
best to help others at all times.

3. Earn five more merit badges...
Clear enough -

4. While a Star Scout, take part in service projects totaling at least 6
hours of work. These must be approved by SM.
Here is where one of our big differences hit - do they need to do any
of the planning, show any leadership, or can it be a just show up and
follow directions work??? Should it count if librarian at school asks
for help reshelving books and boy volunteers to help 2 days a week,
would it matter if it is during or after school? What about helping
with craft area at a girl scout day camp? The only thing we have agreed
on about this is that it will be a "Non-troop" service project (ie they
need to find where help is needed and do it). Anyone--

5. While a Star Scout, serve actively for 6 months in one or more of the
troop positions.....
They have been scribe or librarian or such for 6 months from time of
appointment - really haven't done anything or shown any leadership.
Exactly how does everyone handle these???

6. Take part in a SM conference.
Any guidelines as to what I should be talking with the scouts about
besides double checking the records that everything is done?

7. ?Take part in a BOR? (don't have new book in front of me)
This I can handle -- have done these before .

Any help or advice from current/past SMs and others would be greatly
appreciated. I don't want to be unfainly strict on the boys, but I also
don't want to be accused as just having "rubber stamped" these boys
through the ranks.

YIS - Gladys Jenner
Troop 502 - Longhorn Council - Ft Worth TX

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