SCOUTER Interactive - Your Guide to Scout Out the Net! SCOUTER Magazine and Network
SCOUTER  |  NetCompass  |  NetRoster  |  Forums  |  ClipArt  |  Headlines  |  Auctions  

You are 1 of 856 Active Users

 Locator >
SCOUTER : Archives : Scouts-L : May 1998 : Post
Menu > Email this page to a friend Send page to friend
 


Check out the new SCOUTER Discussion Forums and Post Your Questions Now!

Re: Training Requirements

Craig R. McGarrah (mcgarrah@MINDSPRING.COM)
Wed, 6 May 1998 22:01:37 -0400


At 05:23 PM 5/4/98 -0400, Dale Karweik wrote:
>The largest changes I have seen in the recent course syllabi include an
>increasing dependence on national produced video tapes and a removal of the
>fun parts of the sessions, especially the closing pack meeting. This has
>produced less interactions between participants and staff and a loss of the
>demonstration and participation in Scouting fun. Unfortunately, I have
>observed a corresponding change in the Pack meetings I visit with the OA
>dance group and in the feedback I have read for the Cub Roundtable.
>

Mmmmm. Trying to put myself in National's shoes, I think they want to make
sure certain minimum items are covered and help those whose training
program is not as advanced. However, I think they did the equivalent of
putting 20 executives in a room and asking them to come up with a Company
Vision. You get a lot of stuff, but not much coherent vision.

I believe the act is noble and a letter to nationals as to what can be cut
out or improved would probably be well received. What I see in my district
(and we have some very good trainers) is an emphasis on all the "paperwork
should do and should not do's" and a big de-emphasis on how to run your
Pack or Den. I had a lot of complaints from our den leaders, since this
guideline came out, who say they learned a ton of stuff, but nothing they
can use to run their den. They go over a ton of material and those being
trained, after being overwhelmed by the volume of rules, ask themselves
"Okay, now what. I still don't know what to do with those kids!"

As Cubmaster, I try to stay on top of that and fill in the gaps. Sometimes
it is just a matter of sitting down with the program helps, but sometimes
it is more of a boy control or parent control concern. Sometimes it is a
logistical issue, and sometimes it is just a confidence thing. Training
used to walk them through a den meeting .... etc., just like a recent post
said. That has all been tabled in favor of a ton of rules -- all which are
important, but don't help get a den off the ground. They do not consider
the Fast Start Video to be much help. Personal touches are needed.
Questions need to be answered. District Supplemental training (Pow-Wow's)
are helpful, but come too late for some.

I believe the concept of standardizing is good, but I think they went
overboard and unintentionally omitted what is really important.

Yours in Scouting,
Craig McGarrah
Cubmaster -- Pack 132, Palm Beach Gardens, FL
mcgarrah@mindspring.com

Terry Howerton Sakima Group, Inc. SCOUTER Magazine Kansas City

A few Commercial Links from the SCOUTER NetCompass...


Featured Link Arrowheads For Arrow of Light AwardsClick here for more information
Purchase authentic looking, hand crafted arrowheads for less than .25 cents each. Perfect for making ceremonial arrows. Made of stone, these are top notch replicas!

Featured Link Cell Phone Recycling Scout FundraiserClick here for more information
Protect the environment! Earn up to $100 for every old/used cell phone collected!

Featured Link Create and sell treasure maps for ScoutsClick here for more information
Use your scouting skills to create & sell treasure maps. Great fun and a good fund-raising activity too.

Featured Link Packsacks BWCAW Canoe TripsClick here for more information
Packsacks BWCAW Canoe Trips, located at the edge of the Boundary Waters, is a resort and canoe outfitting base. PACKSACK is in the midst of fishing at its finest! PACKSACK offers a wilderness adventure of canoe trips into the BWCA and Quetico Park,

Featured Link Corn maze, Pumpkin Patch & Country FunClick here for more information
Get lost...in over 20 acres of cornfield mazes including a Haunted Maze at Dewberry Farm! Shoot the incredible Corn Cannon, take a hayride to the pumpkin patch, or have a campout around a campfire.

Featured Link High Adventure CampClick here for more information
High Adventure Camps for Youth Groups

Featured Link How the Boy Scouts really got started Click here for more information
A new book on how scouting got started. For five decades, an American scout secretly mentored the Chief Scout, Lord Baden-Powell - This book tells the story!

Add your link to SCOUTER NetCompass





Join SCOUTER.com

Join SCOUTER.com and participate in the Discussion Forums & receive our email newsletters. First, please enter your e-mail address. We'll see if we have you in our records (must be complete and valid e-mail address to complete registration):

E-mail address

Postal/ZipCode


Site Members Login


SCOUTER Forums

Share your questions, answers and ideas in the SCOUTER Forums!


FREE Web Hosting from SCOUTER!
SCOUTER.com provides free web hosting to more than 2,000 Scout units!

What's become of SCOUTER Magazine, the print publication?

Buy the Back Issues

NetCompass
Categories

Advancement
Calendar
Campfires
Discussion Lists
Graphics and Clipart
Leaders Resource
Medical Issues Library
Meeting Activities
Scout Skills
Scouting History
Scouting Organizations
Service To America
Training
Where To Go
Youth Protection

Sponsors

Site Dedication

SCOUTER celebrates the life of William Hillcourt... Scoutmaster to the World and the founding inspiration for the grassoots resources we share.

© 1994-2005 SCOUTER.com. All rights reserved.

SCOUTER is an independent publication and has been the primary Scouting portal on the web since 1994.
It is not officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America, the Girl Scouts of the USA or the World Organization of Scout Movements.
Web Developer/SaaS Hosting by FastRoot, Chicago - Terry Howerton

spacer.gif (57 bytes)