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Re: O.A. Elections

Jason T Selkowitz (selkowtz@U.WASHINGTON.EDU)
Wed, 29 Apr 1998 15:41:47 -0700


T. Nixon wrote:
>
> Our troop will be having O.A. elections in a few weeks and need some
> guidance from those familiar with O.A. Elections. Our troop uses
> Troopmaster software which will print out eligible O.A. members (those
> who have meet rank and camping req.). In doing so, we found out that
> it will only count one long term camp for the eligibility requirement,
> all the rest of the days must be short term. I have three questions:

Tim,

While I haven't personally used the TroopMaster software, it is
established and widely-used enough that I would expect it to be
correct. Let's drag out the GOA (make sure to blow off the thick layer
of dust first! :-) and take a look.

>From the Guide to Officers and Advisers, 1995 printing, page 20:

<< Youth membership qualifications. All members of, or candidates for
membership in, the Order of the Arrow who are under 21 years of age
shall be considered youth members or candidates for youth membership,
subject to meeting the following requirements:

* Be a registered member of the Boy Scouts of America.

* Hold the First Class rank of the Boy Scouts of America, as a minimum.

* After registration with a troop or team, have experienced fifteen days
and nights of camping during the two-year period prior to election. The
fifteen days and nights must include six consecutive days and nights of
resident camping, approved and under the auspices and standards of the
Boy Scouts of America. The balance of the camping must be overnight,
weekend, or other short-term camps. >>

There has been a slight change to the counting of the 6 days/nights to
accomodate those groups who can't stay six nights (e.g. Orthodox Jews or
LDS units); I'm not sure of the exact wording, but it doesn't change the
essence of this requirement in this situation.

> 1. Can two summer camps not be applied to the total? For example, a
> scout who went on two 6 day summer camps and 3 two day camps - would
> he be eligible?

Nope, only 6 days from one summer camp within the last two years count.

> 2. What about a long term camp that is more than 6 days? Who many
> days do you count towards the total of 15 nights? For example, our
> troop went on an 8 day summer camp adventure last summer, do you count
> only six of these days with the other nine must be short term? or do
> you count all 8 with the remainder being short term?

You can only count the six days, no more.

> 3. And finally, if a Scout attends one summer camp of 6 days the
> first year, and 8 days the second year, and has 7 days of short-term
> camping, does it matter which long term camp you apply (assuming you
> can count the 8 day camp for all 8 days)?

Since you can only count up to six days, it doesn't matter.

> In our case, Troopmaster applied only the first camp of 6 days and
> disregards the camp of 8 days. These 2 days did make a difference
> regarding eligibility for some of the scouts.

It sounds like TroopMaster has got it figured out. Hope this helps!


YiS,

Jason T. Selkowitz


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