Re: "So You Think You Shouldn't Be Here" (ANSWERS) (2/2)
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@DYNASTY.NET)
Sun, 15 Feb 1998 19:18:07 -0600
These are the ANSWERS to the "So You Think You Shouldn't Be Here!" Quiz....
If you get this posting BEFORE the questions posting, please do NOT read
this posting before answering the questions.
Subject: Re: Training - Get It (quiz answers)
From: kyblkeagle@aol.com (KYBLKEAGLE)
Date: Tue, Feb 3, 1998 20:49 EST
Message-id: <19980204014900.UAA14074@ladder02.news.aol.com>
A short time back, I posted the following on rec.scouting.usa:
>I've got a "PRE TEST" that I've used when I was teaching Commissioners >at
Commissioners' Colleges about "how to approach the unapproachable >Scouter".
This is an "closed-book test", and I have given it as the first 30 >minutes
of Scoutmaster's Fundamentals. It covers much of what the >course tries to
teach as well as to give a summary of how far Scouting >has come since the
60s, 70, and 80s.
>It's called "So You Think You Shouldn't Be Here"
And here are the answers (I'll be happy to provide the references, but most
of the references come from the Scoutmasters' Handbook, the Rules and
Regulations of the BSA, the BSA Youth Protection Policy handout given to
Scouters during Scoutmaster Fundamentals, and from the Boy Scout
Requirements Book (1995-97) )
1. The Boy Scouts of America was started by:
C. Mr. W. D. Boyce of Chicago, bringing the Scouting program to America in 1908
(the Scoutmasters' Handbook says 1907; most other BSA stuff says "two years
before the BSA was incorporated by Congressional action in 1910)
2. The ranks in Boy Scouting are:
B. Tenderfoot, Second Class, First Class, Star, Life, Eagle, Eagle with
Bronze Palm, Eagle with Gold Palm, Eagle with Silver Palm
(Remember that the Scout badge is an advancement step but NOT a rank;
someone else wrote me concerning references to Eagle Palms as "ranks" and
here's what I wrote in response:
> I agree with you on the Eagle Palm thing....I have the same references
>you referred to in your response to me, and I too couldn't find anything
>"official" stating that Eagle Palms *are considered ranks*. However, the
>two "major references" for Scoutmasters, the Boy Scout Handbook and >the
Scoutmasters' Handbook (the two references that most Scoutmasters >would
bring probably to a Scoutmaster Fundamentals course) does state >that Eagle
Palms are "advancements" (which is how I should have >phrased the question!!)
>
>I'll have to write back to the Eagle Scout Service and find out why the
>BSA doesn't consider our Eagle Scout Palms (I have a Silver and Gold >Palm,
one MB from getting two Silver Palms) as "ranks". )
>
So I'll also take as a correct response:
C. Tenderfoot, Second Class, First Class, Star, Life, Eagle
3. To earn Tenderfoot, Second Class or First Class:
B. All requirements as listed in the Boy Scout Handbook for that rank may
be completed in "random order"
(this means that a Scout can be working on Tenderfoot, Second Class AND
First Class all at the same time, and does not have to wait until he is a
Second Class Scout to start work on the 100 yard swim requirement for First
Class)
4. The leader of the Troop is called:
B. The Senior Patrol Leader
(the Scoutmaster serves as primary advisor, coach and trainer to this youth
leader)
5. The Troop is made up of:
A. Two or more patrols, each with it's own youth leadership
B. One or more patrols, each with it's own youth leadership
(I would always accept either one of these answers although technically "A"
is the correct one; smaller Troops may not have two patrols. The key,
however, "each with it's own youth leadership" part of each line)
6. Under the BSA's Youth Protection program:
B. Two adults, one which must be registered, are required to attend every
overnight campout, event or activity of the Troop
7. Varsity Scouting is:
C. The program for older boys started in the late 80s which is not part of
your Troop and which has its own adult and youth leadership
(Varsity Scouting is NO LONGER part of the Troop's Operation Plan; the
program was replaced by the Venture Scouting program which remains the
"older boy program" in a Boy Scout Troop)
8. In order to earn Eagle, a Life Scout must:
A. Earn 21 merit badges, including those from a list of required merit
badges including Family Life and Camping
(The number of required merit badges has increased; the number of total
merit badges required for Eagle has not; and this is a REDUCTION in merit
badges since the middle 70s when the BSA had 24 merit badges required)
9. Can a female serve as Scoutmaster or Assistant Scoutmaster?
C. Yes, provided the Troop and local Coucil approves her as a registered
Scouter
(no special form is required, now or then; females are approved and can
serve in any registered position upon unit and local Council approval, just
like males)
10. Who conducts the Boards of Review for Boy Scout ranks?
A. The Troop Committee conducts all Boards of Review except for Eagle,
which is done with a member of the local Council in attendance, at a
District or Council location using District/Council volunteers and members
of the community, or at the local Council office using District/Council
volunteers
(The Patrol Leaders' Council is out of the Board of Review business and the
Troop's Committee (or Varsity Team Committee or Explorer Post or Ship
Committee, in those cases) is responsible for all Boards of Review now. In
those local Councils where the Eagle Boards of Review are still conducted by
units, the District or Council's Advancement Chair or his or her appointed
representative will sit in and represent the local Council during Boards of
Review for Eagle at the unit level. In those local Councils where the Eagle
Boards of Review are conducted in a centralized or decentralized location,
most Councils will permit unit Committee Chairs or members to sit in and
vote on the Eagle Boards)
11. What is (or should be) the highlight in a Scout's year of Scouting?
B. Going to summer camp or other long-term camping adventure with the Troop
(summer camp is the highlight of the Scout program year and should be looked
forward to by all members of the Troop and by its leadership)
12. How should you talk to a Scout?
(several Scouters from r.s.usa commented that this actually should ask:
12. How should you counsel a Scout?
Here's what I wrote in response:
"Lots of Scouters brought that one up...they too state that "talk with" was
too strong a phrase and suggested "counsel", "hold a Scoutmaster's
Conference with" or "privately talk with" a Scout. I haven't seen this quiz
in some time..."
If you choose to share this, you may use either question. But the answer is: )
B. Always away from other Scouts and Scouters, but in plain view of one
other Scouter and in a manner and behavior in which you would talk with your
own son
13. The Senior Patrol Leader of a Troop:
A. Is normally the highest-ranking and oldest boy in the Troop, and gives
leadership to all other Patrol Leaders in the Troop
(The Scoutmasters' Handbook states that the SPL should be the most senior
boy in the Troop, but in smaller Troops and Troops with very few "older
boys" in it, flexibility should be allowed for the election of the SPL from
the membership of the Troop.)
14. Who "hires" the Scoutmaster and Assistants and approves their application?
A. The Chartered Organizational Representative
(The Chartered Organizational Representative, or COR, approves all
applications and conducts on behalf of the unit's committee and chartering
organization, any reference checks neccessary to insure the confidence of
the chartering organization in the adult leadership of the unit)
15. The National Offices of the Boy Scouts of America are located:
B. In Irving, Texas
(The other two addresses were past addresses of the BSA)
16. A "District Director" is:
A. A professional whom supervises one or more professionals ("District
Executives") and may serve as a program or camping director in addition to
representing the District
(Many Districts have such a person, and more Councils are using District
Directors instead of Field Directors. The point of this question was to
bring home the fact that Scouting works with volunteers, aided by a
professional member or team which provides day-to-day support to the program)
17. The aims of the Boy Scouts of America are to:
C. promote responsible citizenship, development of positive character, and
enhancing personal and mental fitness
("A" were the aims of the Exploring program; "B" was taken from the Varsity
Scout Pledge)
18. To earn a religious emblem, a Boy Scout must
B. Complete the requirements for the religious award by working with their
religious leader, rabbi, minister or priest
(Scouts no longer have to earn First Class in order to start work toward a
religious emblem, although some faiths still require First Class to be earned)
19. The New Scout Patrol is led by:
C. A Patrol Leader elected by the members of the Patrol, coached by a Troop
Guide and an Assistant Scoutmaster - New Scout Patrol
(Important to remember here is that the Troop Guide is NOT a Patrol
Leader...the patrol elects their own leadership for a one or two month
period, which gives ALL or a majority of patrol members the opportunity to
serve as Patrol Leader or Assistant Patrol Leader; and that the adult
advisor to that Patrol Leader is the Assistant Scoutmaster- New Scout Patrol
while the youth advisor to that Patrol Leader is the Troop Guide.)
20. There are four steps to the advancement process; they are:
A. The Scout learns, is tested, is reviewed and then recognized for his skill
or work
21. What is the job of the Scoutmaster?
B. To train the Scouts of the Troop to run their Troop, to coach and assist
youth leaders of the Troop and to provide an environment for them to get the
best from the Scouting program and the Troop
22. Wood Badge is:
A. The advanced training program for Cub Scout trainers, Boy Scout and
Varsity Scout leaders, Exploring leaders and trainers, and others directly
involved in the unit program, enhancing their ability to provide a
successful unit Scouting experience
(Wood Badge is not limited to adults working on the District or Council
level or who serve as trainers or Commissioners. Wood Badge comes in
different "flavors" and styles to serve as an additional training experience
for the Scouter and to motivate them toward further service)
23. A "Unit Commissioner" is:
C. A volunteer Scouter, whose main lot in life is to supervise selected
units and to relay and provide information from the local Council and
District to those selected units that he or she supervises
(Unit Commissioners, or Troop Commissioners, support your unit directly. He
or she is the direct link between the local Council and its volunteer and
professional structure and each of the units that he or she supports. While
many Unit/Troop Commissioners also provide assistance to any unit that's
around, he or she's main obligation is to those three or four units that he
or she works with and provides that link for)
24. What is a Venture Crew?
B. Part of a Troop, with two or more crews within the Troop; members are
older boys that participate in "high-adventure" activities
(Venture crews are an optional part of the Troop for older boys)
25. The Troop Guide and Den Chief both work with the "New Scout Patrol".
What's the difference between the two?
B. The Troop Guide serves as advisor to the Patrol Leader of the New Scout
Patrol; the Den Chief serves as assistant to the Cub Scout or WEBELOS Cub
Scout Den Leader and Assistant
(The Troop Guide may be a former Den Chief of the WEBELOS Cub Scout Den that
"crossed over" to the Troop)
I hope that you have enjoyed the quiz (and it's answers). Of course, since
it's now on this forum, those District or Council Commissioners (or their
staffs) that wish to use this as part of their basic Scout leader courses, can
please do so with my permission PROVIDED that you credit the source
("obtained from the Scouts-L youth programs mailing list and used by
permission of the author, Mike Walton (blkeagle@dynasty.net)" ). We need to
impress upon those that are not aware of the Internet's capabilities for
getting and giving information that will help Scouting; by not just placing
my name but also this forum, you're helping in this favorable impression!
Thanks!
Settummanque!
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
(settummanque, the blackeagle) http://dynasty.net/users/blkeagle
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