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Subject: Re: Explorers camping with troops
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Mark Wright wrote:

>> I suggest you call your DE back and ask him, if girls cannot go campin=
g
with a Troop, then exactly *how* can
they participate with the Venture program??

Yes, girls can go camping. Yes, Explorers are covered under BSA insuranc=
e.

Yes, you are right, she should be held to the same policies (buddy system=
)
as the boys.

*When* she goes camping with the Troop, a female chaperone (Scouter) is
required, so unless her mom, or another
female adult is willing to go, she may not. It isn't enough that her
father is along, you must have a woman
with the Troop, too. <<

I don't think that it's as simple as Mark makes it sound. Yes, girls can=

be "invited guests" as part of a troop venture activity, and yes, explori=
ng
events are covered by BSA insurance. But this wasn't a venture activity =
or
an explorer event, but a regular troop outing.

Mark does point out how this could be handled *IF THE TROOP COMMITTEE WAN=
TS
TO ALLOW IT*. This seems to be the place to start. If the parents objec=
t,
it should stop right there. Mom and Dad can't FORCE the troop to allow t=
he
daughter to come along. Next, the outing can only be a venture outing -
that is, limited to scouts 13 years of age or older. Finally, there must=

be proper leadership. I'm not sure on this point, but I think that there=

must be TWO female leaders, and not just one whenever females are include=
d.

YIS

Joseph A. Alessi in Ozwin 2.12.2
JosephAlessi@Compuserve.com
District Advancement Chair
ASM Troop 313 and Scoutmaster, Jamboree Troop 530
Advisor to the Treasurer, Unami Lodge
I used to be an Owl

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