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Re: Quick Philmont Question

Paul M. Buehrle (pmbuehrle@EEX.COM)
Wed, 31 Jul 1996 16:07:27 -0500


William Myers wrote:
>
> Headed to Philmont Sunday Morn... We are on Trek 7, (Mt Phillips,
> Fish Camp, Aberro, Tooth of Time)... Several of the days in the PEAKS
> book mention the possibility of fishing (since much of the trail seems to
> follow the river.) ... Several of my scouts would like to know if it is
> worth their time to pack a ultra-light reel and collapsible rod... Are
> there fish in the Rayado?
> Our trek (701N#1) just finished the same itinerary several weeks ago. Althoug
h we
did not fish or carry gear, we observed trout in the Rayado at Porcupine. Our s
ister
trek, which followed a nearby itinerary, caught about 18 trout near Apache Sprin
gs on the
tributary which joins the Rayado at Fish Camp.

> Any other last minute tid-bits of advice for this particular trek
> are always welcome by me...
> When you camp at Lambert's Mine, be sure to take a side hike to Cypher's Mine.
The
mine tour (and coffee) is well worth the hike and the "Stomp" in the evening was
the best
campfire we had all trek!! The trail from Cypher's Mine to Thunder Ridge is a n
ewer 8%
grade trail (easy), but the trail from Thunder Ridge to the top of Mt. Phillips
is tough. (Be sure to "catapiller" this segment.) The program at Clear Creek i
s well
worth a stop on a beautiful hike down the Rayado to Porcupine.

Our boys enjoyed the layover at Beaubien, but they did not enjoy the campfire as
well as
they enjoyed Cypher,s or Uracca. The hike from Fish Camp to Abreu was very plea
sant, but
the hike up and over Uracca mesa is steep and hazardous (sprains). We found the
route from
Uracca to Miner's Park via Bear Caves and Crater Lake to be good grades the enti
re way with
a minimum of 4-wheel drive roads. Finally, the trail from Miner's Park to Schaf
fer's Peak
is a new 8% grade trail which our guys found to be much easier than they feared,
but the
loose rocks along Tooth Ridge are real ankle turners. We all had a terrific tre
k with no
blisters or illness and the boys all had a great time. Hope you have the same!

Paul Buehrle
Troop 890
Circle Ten Council
Dallas, Texas

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