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Re: 2-deep leadership - problem

hilding holroyd (blustone!hemingway!hilding@UUNET.UU.NET)
Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17:19:38 EST


> I have paid close attention to this discussion thread.
> I believe that the two-deep policy is a well thought out policy, but I think i
t
> fails to consider every consideration, but I'm not certain. Let me give a
> senario that I believe could be pertinent to spiritual leaders of Scout units,
> i.e. troop chaplains.
> Suppose a local pastor is the Troop Chaplain for my troop, and on a campout or
> at a regular meeting a kid finds himself very disturbed over a grave matter, a
t
> least to the kid it is grave. He approaches the chaplain and says that he mus
t
> discuss this with the chap. immediately, it's just that important to the kid.
> So, the chap. askes the scout what the matter is and the scout looks around at
> his peers and says that he needs to speek to the chap. confidentially. Now at
> this point the chap gets the SM to sit in on the group, but the kid looks
> frantically at the chap, like he is violating the boys "right" to confidential
> counseling.
> This puts the chap. in a particular bind, because BSA policy prohibits one on
> one, yet the chap. a man of God is required by his faith to help the boy out a
nd
> to help the boy one on one if that is necessary, which in this case it may be.
> So the chap. sees that to counsel the boy is a voilation of BSA policy but to
> not counsel the boy is a sin against God. What should the chap. do?
> Please don't feel I am trying to create a problem or more discussion, this isn
't
> my intention, and I am not trying to put holes in BSA policy. I have a sincer
e
> question here and I would apreciate sincere answers to this.
>
Andrew,
The answer to this is to meet with the scout IN FULL VIEW of other
adult leaders. When I am at camp, I can sit in my tent and counsel a
scout as long as the tent is not closed and we are in full view of
others. This would satisfy the 2-deep leadership and also satisfy
the confidentiality of the conversation. Another solution is to
go to another place, such as the dining hall, where there are
others present, but I go into a corner of the hall to talk to the
scout. This is what I do for SM conferences at troop meetings. I am
off in a corner of the hall, with dozens of witnesses, but there is
a privacy just by going off into the corner.

Hope this satisfies, and that I don't step on others' toes with my
answer - especially BSA's.

Hilding W. Holroyd Jersey Shore Council
Adv. Chairman, Tr 250, Lakewood, NJ "I used to be a FOX!", NE-IV-54
Eagle Class '68 Japeechin Lodge (Brotherhood)

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